Oh god I better hold my hand up. I think I caused a lot of it but I didn't understand the level of animosity to a Samba4 directory.
I was hoping if I wore him down I would actually get him to capitulate and start working with Samba4.
We seem to have these two camps of proper linux uses OpenLdap, postfix and dovecot and all this M$ stuff (and it is me who always says M$) isn't proper linux.
I just view it as a solution to some problems of a M$ dominance and solutions rather than brands are more important. Opensource is opensource.
It took a landmark European court order to get M$ to release information and probably one of the biggest task has been by Andrew Bartlett and Tridge and all to provide Samba4.
For me this is massive and really important and for Zentyal to provide a M$ style offering is hugely important as M$ people don't understand Linux and the CLI.
It is really sad Christian has gone because one of the reasons I kept pestering him was if he did come on board I knew he could offer way more than myself.
In fact unfortunately I don't think there is currently a member of the community to match him.
I posted all the Catb stuff because also this split in the community was showing signs of people with status not liking opinion of different sorts.
Zentyal or Julien is under no obligation to be led by any community opinion. It is there choice. What is essential that opinion is open and that is what I got a bee in my bonnet about.
I really wish there was more interaction between Zentyal and the community to garner value though. Let the community provide. Help a small team provide big solutions.
It does seem really hard as a member of the community to have opinion.
Zentyal 3.4 is absolutely littered with 2.0 legacy and to be honest I do think you guys are trying to edge your bets. I wasn't joking about updating 2.0 that way we can streamline 3.0 so it really is active exchange whilst not losing community or revenue for other area's.
smite me I deserve it, its about time we set some records how much smite can this negative voice get in a day
I will work with anyone, want to work with all, am going to try my absolute best and I fully support Samba4 and Openchange.
I am going to start a conversation tomorrow about the two LDAPs and I would love to hear opinion without it getting into anything personal.
Reason is two directories is just not twice its 2^ and I see so many problems and extra requirements because of this.
Just to talk and ask why it is so, is there ways to make this more simple.
Also another one about bring back Zentyal 2.0 two products Zentyal Pure and Zentyal M$ how about that for marketing and spin saatchi told me all he knows
There is the question as a community can we actually discuss anything without it just turning into a mess?
PS I do really think CatB is really important as Opensource can be two distinct forms the Cathedral and the Bazaar I think we have a Cathedral style and believe this misses many huge advantages of the Bazaar.