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barilkobart

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Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« on: October 29, 2012, 03:08:47 pm »
Doing a pilot for a proof of concept for a non profit organization.

The install on a decent box (4 core 16GB RAM) went smoothly.
The Zentyal infrastructure is working great: DHCP/DNS/proxy/NTP/etc.

However, having trouble with Samba, and Virtualization. 

Samba:
I can't get any workstations to join the domain (tried Windows 7 and XP).  Message that comes back when trying to join is "unable to contact domain" after putting in a user ID with Domain Admin.  I have applied the recommended registry punches.

Virtualization:
I am able to create the VMs, and have them booting the required ISOs.

The view console with VNC is small, unusable, the window when started says NO VNC.
I have installed VNCVIEW on the Zentyal server use "apt-get install vncviewer"
I have only tried this on the Zentyal server console (not from a workstation).

The VMs boot up, and load the ISOs, but the VMs do not see the disks allocated to the VMs, so I can't install.


If I can't resolve these issues, the proof on concept will fail and SBS it will be.

Thanks,


Bart

« Last Edit: October 29, 2012, 04:45:23 pm by barilkobart »

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2012, 03:38:08 pm »
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As it stands now, I am abandoning using Zentyal because of these issues, unless I can get them solved is short order.
please dont do that,  you wil never get support quicker, by saying this kind of stuff,

this forum is provider for apsolutely free, meaning that we dont get anything in return for helping you, and its really disrespectfully saying things like: if you dont help me quick im gonna...." 

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regarding your question,  please give us more information about what you did,  and didn't test yet...
there are several posts on this forum with the exact same question, and me answering them,  have you tried that suggestion yet.. also have you tested with nslookup...

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2012, 04:39:25 pm »
Sorry about that, but the reality is something as simple as joining a domain doesn't work, or virutalization doesn't work, the product needs more work before I can in all honesty recommend it for clients.

I did a search in the Forum for not being able to join the domain, and nothing solved anything.
I uninstalled Samba, same problem.
I re-installed Zentyal, same problem.

NSLOOKUP of the DNS domain returned the IP address of the Zentyal server.
I can see the service records in the DNS domain.
Could it be a WINS problem?

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2012, 08:10:12 pm »
ah, but i do understand your frustration if things dont work...
but if you had added your information from the 2nd post, to your topic start you would have taken less from my time and my frustration...

More ontopic.
yes:  wins  can be an issue,

the prefered wins server can be defined from your dhcp ...
if zentyal is your dhcp server, you can find the setting  under your  dhcp-scope.
set wins to 'zentyal domain' 

ans an alternative you could try to use the  winnt 4 approach  joining the domain with credentials like

domainname =    \\your-netbios-name
username =     \\your-netbios-name\administrator
password =        #############

lets see where you get after trying this... 
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Re: Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2012, 10:57:01 pm »
An update for "Users and Groups" and "File Sharing and Domain Servies" came out today.
I did the update and now it is working as expected.

Now for some direction on my Virtualization questions.

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2012, 01:21:46 pm »
im sorry but i dont use virtualisation inside zentyal ... so i cant help you with that, one,
good to read that your samba issues are fixed now...

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 04:55:53 am »
Try this thread for an answer on that one http://forum.zentyal.org/index.php/topic,12489.0.html . KVM developers changed the way it works for awhile. It wouldn't boot on scsi drives for several revisions.  It is fixed now but hasn't made it into the Zentyal codebase.  The above forum link explains how to overcome it.   

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 02:08:22 pm »
@ half_life your amazing...   i knew this also but just forgot about it altoghether...
+1 from me - well earned
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Re: Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 01:41:33 am »
I am now happily creating VMs!

Now what about use VNC viewer for looking at the console of the VMs.

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 03:57:23 am »
NO SO FAST!

View Console on the Server Console or remotely does not let my use the keyboard.

This should NOT be so difficult!

Any ideas?

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 05:35:50 am »
I will have to setup a testbed to look into this.  A virtual machine inside of a virtual machine doesn't sound like a good testing environment to me.  Hopefully someone with more direct knowledge will pop in here.

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 11:18:13 am »
I DO NOT have a virtual machine within a virtual machine.
Zentyal 3.0 is running on physical box.

The four VMs I were created without using the keyboard.  Now Windows setup is at the point where keyboard input is required, and I can't put any keystrokes in all of them.

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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 01:37:49 pm »
I DO NOT have a virtual machine within a virtual machine.
BUT I WOULD if I tried to test in my current configuration.  That is why I would need to setup a testbed :)

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 01:04:38 pm »
You would think that if the Zentyal folks wanted people to sign up for their monthly subscriptions, they would monitor this forum and fix things as simple as keyboard console input within a VM from the web portal.  A show stopper for me.

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 instead of MS SBS?
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2012, 01:37:14 pm »
It looks like there is a lot of different reasons for you not to go for Zentyal but rather Microsoft.
So perhaps this is the best choice in your case  ;)