Author Topic: Zentyal 3.0 RC2  (Read 3963 times)

stuartiannaylor

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Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« on: September 07, 2012, 11:40:38 am »
Just up and running and straight at Samba.

The defaults for Samba may of changed but the default administrator account is there.

Basically with win7 I am trying to join the domain.

Using the old defaults user:administrator password:Zentyal1234

Has this changed ?

[EDIT]

PS Samba still not starting automatically on reboot

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Changed administrator password and joined
sure i tried the install chosen password as well but maybe not.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 12:18:00 pm by stuartiannaylor »

stuartiannaylor

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 12:26:34 pm »
Yeah.

GPO

Now to add some groups also no network services needed [port 389]

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Reboot log start up VM on local account

start samba (doesn't start auto)

switch account to domain\administrator

logged on

run GPO admin

tells me forest can't be connected

delete forest

reconnect to zentyal-domain

connected

[EDIT]
Another look at Win7 Active Directory Administrative Centre

As expected wants Active directory web services, presume another M$ sly change (ADWS)

But no probs.
 
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 12:43:53 pm by stuartiannaylor »

stuartiannaylor

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 12:50:00 pm »
Exploring GPO manager.

M$ error.

Here goes going to click OK.

ps can someone let us have more attachment space !

Please  :-*

You can see where I clicked

stuartiannaylor

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 01:23:22 pm »
As in http://samba.org/tridge/Samba4Demo/s4demo2.ogv

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I hate being tied to win7 due to some customers, but wow my win7 woes are over.

Thanks Zentyal

 :-* :-* :-*

christian

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 01:37:14 pm »
I've no doubt this is very interesting but I don't understand what this attached picture (testuser1.png) brings? any information inside we should look at  ???

stuartiannaylor

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 01:50:54 pm »
group policy with the control panel link disabled.

from the demo video.

image as that user is logged on.

I am running with RC2 at the mo so trying a few things.

Because I created a new organisational unit so that I could apply a GPO on that unit I now lose that user from the Zentyal user admin module.

Hey Christian who has been smiting you? STOP now this guy is a dude.

I am the smite master do you hear!

[EDIT]
Any instructions for enabling SSO with Zarafa?

Beer time will try later

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Also with the proxy.
Set SSO on.
manually edited proxy address 192.168.3.1:3128 [firefox]

logged on as administrator all ok

add filters to groups

proxy refusing connections ?
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 03:04:38 pm by stuartiannaylor »

stuartiannaylor

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2012, 03:36:18 pm »
Closed communities make slow work!

Guess I will have to wait.

Why have a closed bug hunters forum? Why not open it?

All it does is create islands of control that create delays?

I could be having a look at what others have found and actually doing something with RC2.

All I am doing is sitting on my ass and waiting? Why whats the big deal?

Stuart

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8. Given a large enough beta-tester and co-developer base, almost every problem will be characterized quickly and the fix obvious to someone.
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19. Provided the development coordinator has a communications medium at least as good as the Internet, and knows how to lead without coercion, many heads are inevitably better than one.
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10. If you treat your beta-testers as if they're your most valuable resource, they will respond by becoming your most valuable resource.
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11. The next best thing to having good ideas is recognizing good ideas from your users. Sometimes the latter is better.
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6. Treating your users as co-developers is your least-hassle route to rapid code improvement and effective debugging.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 06:50:55 pm by stuartiannaylor »

Sam Graf

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2012, 07:18:31 pm »
Closed communities make slow work!

Guess I will have to wait.

Why have a closed bug hunters forum? Why no open it?
Stuart, you know as well as anyone that the active community is small compared to the installed base. You also know that the closed forum is for the volunteer and Zentyal staff, so for a fraction of the small active community. Since I have access to that forum, I can tell you that there is very little going on in the closed forum. The last post is from August 25 or something like that.

Since the developers accept and act on bug reports from the community, since they accept patches, and since they are active in the beta forum, I think you are making the community sound more closed than it is. That's unjust and uncharitable from any point of view, it seems to me. The Zentyal community is imperfect, but until those imperfections are true impediments to Zentyal as a product, we have room and time to grow as a community--again, so it seems to me.

Finally, quoting chapter and verse to point out the community's shortcomings is something that is of dubious value. Most of us are ordinary people with much more to do than things Zentyal. That is part of the chaos of the bazaar and is why open source is judged on the long haul, not the short haul. If Zentyal was still like eBox 1, we would have real reason to be concerned. But with each new release the product improves, even if incrementally. So to me, charitable participation in the Zentyal community means spending significant time giving credit where credit is due (and the karma feature of the software is almost useless for that purpose, it seems to me, since it can quickly devolve into interpersonal back-biting) while promoting community growth in constructive, non-ivory-tower ways.

In short, a negative nancy constructively contributes less to the community that she thinks she does. In any case, moderators are tasked with moderating (as in protecting equity and fairness) the overall tone of the community conversation. Obviously, the tone should be demonstrably constructive even when critical. Opening the closed bug hunt forum will accomplish nothing of practical value so I see no need to argue for it (or against it) further at this time.

stuartiannaylor

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2012, 07:20:12 pm »
Sam just open it. Its that simple.

Please.

That way you might get some people joining.

 :D

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Please you know what I quoting.

The Cathedral and the Bazaar

Guidelines for creating good open source software

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar

Please have a look from out of the moderator / council circle and have a think about participation?

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OPEN not CLOSED.

Why have a closed membership only bug hunters hidden forum?
Its a reflection of the state of play I am afraid.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 07:30:12 pm by stuartiannaylor »

Sam Graf

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2012, 07:27:22 pm »
Even if I could (doubt I have the authority even if the technical capability), why? There is nothing going on there, as I already said. I'm not even sure I undrstand it's purpose. The beta forum and the tracker are where the action actually is. If you are relying on what's going on in the closed forum, after reading you would still be sitting on your ass waiting for some other bug-hunting epiphany that isn't going to happen. It's honestly that simple, Stuart.

Spend the time winning yourself a t-shirt. :)

stuartiannaylor

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2012, 07:34:27 pm »
I would like an open forum where some of the Guru's out there can shame me to death on bug hunting RC2

Please.

I will do my very best.

Stuart.

Just public and open.

Hopefully we could start off specific technology threads and run child threads from them.
That way we can get an overview of what is happening and where?

To anyone who joins though, its non elitist and open for all levels. The dumber the better as it will make me look better.
Hopefully via merit it will just form some sort of self control?
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 07:43:59 pm by stuartiannaylor »

stuartiannaylor

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2012, 08:30:28 pm »
Apologies :)

But someone do it.

 :o
 :)
Please tell others. Nothing to do with me. As long as I can post my own woes.
http://forum.zentyal.org/index.php/topic,11915.msg48677.html#msg48677
Don't worry about techno speak. At any level see what you come across.
Share your experience.
http://www.zentyal.org/beta/
http://forum.zentyal.org/index.php/topic,11909.msg48630.html#msg48630

traducir con lo que usted desea
перевод с тем, что вы хотите
Übersetzen wie gewünscht
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 09:08:09 pm by stuartiannaylor »

Sam Graf

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2012, 09:17:16 pm »
This is one of those places where you completely confuse me. The beta forum description, "Beta Testing
Feedback and bug squashing on Zentyal Server beta releases," seems to be exactly what you're asking for. Granted, that doesn't cover regular release, so maybe there could be something along those lines (not convinced, but for the sake of discussion).

In any case, for present purposes, I am at a loss to see that you don't already have, in substance if not in name, exactly what you want. :o

stuartiannaylor

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2012, 09:20:07 pm »
Token gesture, open forum called bug hunters or something.

I am sure the council can come up with something.

Give a call out for an open debate of all levels.

Get the council off there perch and get users running.

Something like that.

:)

More attachment space
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 09:26:29 pm by stuartiannaylor »

Sam Graf

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Re: Zentyal 3.0 RC2
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2012, 09:25:19 pm »
I don't interact with the council and don't even see the need to interact with the council for this purpose. Open debate about what? With whom?

Token gesture, as a fair-playing advocate of the chaos of the Bazaar: accept that the beta forum does what you want, even if it's not named as you like. Please?