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Installation and Upgrades / Two Zentyal vm's, one shows the 3.4 upgrade button, the other does not.
« on: April 22, 2014, 07:57:45 pm »
Two Zentyal vm's, both 3.3.10, one shows the 3.4 upgrade banner with the upgrade button, the other does not.
Both incrementally upgraded from 3.2.
SMH.
Both incrementally upgraded from 3.2.
SMH.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: client access
« on: April 22, 2014, 07:52:08 pm »
Documentation is here; http://doc.zentyal.org/en/#
Webmail, for example is here; http://doc.zentyal.org/en/webmail.html#login-to-webmail
Webmail, for example is here; http://doc.zentyal.org/en/webmail.html#login-to-webmail
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Why does Ubuntu 14.04 LTS repository have only Zentyal 2.3.21?
« on: April 21, 2014, 08:32:19 pm »
This is at the top of every update page in the gui.
Warning: These are untested community updates that might harm your system. In production environments we recommend using the Professional, Business or Premium Editions: commercial Zentyal server editions fully supported by Zentyal S.L. and Canonical/Ubuntu.
I take it as the gospel.
As far as my experience over the years goes, I have no idea if any given update is going to break the community edition.
I have no idea if there's even a supported community edition.
I generally consider any install as frozen as soon as it's installed on hardware and I will generally only update virtual machines.
In short, I've learned not to trust the community edition, I don't think the devs are malicious towards the freeloaders but I also don't believe they really care about the community, it's kinda obvious to anyone who's spent any time on these forums.
For me, I use the community edition for myself and for a few non-profits I support who haven't 2 free nickels to rub together, so I can't afford, anymore than can they, the downtime of a botched upgrade.
Now, I did fire off a 3.3.9 upgrade to 3.4.1, which was also 12.04 to 13.10, and nothing broke, I was really impressed, but I consider that a fluke and I reverted.
From what JCalvo has said in this thread, if I don't upgrade from 3.3.9 to 3.4.1 and I wait, say until, 3.4.8 or even 3.5 comes out to fire off an upgrade, it probably will destroy the install because I didn't upgrade incrementally, obviously jumping over more than one upgrade is a recipe for a real disaster.
Community edition upgrades cannot be considered safe. Period. That's a real shame.
Warning: These are untested community updates that might harm your system. In production environments we recommend using the Professional, Business or Premium Editions: commercial Zentyal server editions fully supported by Zentyal S.L. and Canonical/Ubuntu.
I take it as the gospel.
As far as my experience over the years goes, I have no idea if any given update is going to break the community edition.
I have no idea if there's even a supported community edition.
I generally consider any install as frozen as soon as it's installed on hardware and I will generally only update virtual machines.
In short, I've learned not to trust the community edition, I don't think the devs are malicious towards the freeloaders but I also don't believe they really care about the community, it's kinda obvious to anyone who's spent any time on these forums.
For me, I use the community edition for myself and for a few non-profits I support who haven't 2 free nickels to rub together, so I can't afford, anymore than can they, the downtime of a botched upgrade.
Now, I did fire off a 3.3.9 upgrade to 3.4.1, which was also 12.04 to 13.10, and nothing broke, I was really impressed, but I consider that a fluke and I reverted.
From what JCalvo has said in this thread, if I don't upgrade from 3.3.9 to 3.4.1 and I wait, say until, 3.4.8 or even 3.5 comes out to fire off an upgrade, it probably will destroy the install because I didn't upgrade incrementally, obviously jumping over more than one upgrade is a recipe for a real disaster.
Community edition upgrades cannot be considered safe. Period. That's a real shame.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Should Zentyal Have Skipped Ubuntu 13.10 Waiting for 14.04.1 ?
« on: April 18, 2014, 06:20:19 pm »36
Installation and Upgrades / Great work.
« on: April 11, 2014, 07:27:52 pm »
I just fired off the 3.3.7 Zentyal on 12.04 to 3.4.1 on Ubuntu 13.10.
It took about 40 min including downloads and after reboot, it came up without any issues that I could find in regular mail, file sharing and web serving.
Very impressive.
I did revert it back to 3.3.7 to stay on LTS because I can't be sure about the upgrade path for Zentyal from 13.10 to 14.04 LTS.
It took about 40 min including downloads and after reboot, it came up without any issues that I could find in regular mail, file sharing and web serving.
Very impressive.
I did revert it back to 3.3.7 to stay on LTS because I can't be sure about the upgrade path for Zentyal from 13.10 to 14.04 LTS.
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Installation and Upgrades / [fyi] ftp failure following component updates.
« on: April 10, 2014, 12:18:13 am »
Following the component updates 4/8/2014 to a Zentyal 3.3.7, perhaps ftp 3.3.1 or file sharing (samba) 3.3.5 the ability to scan to ftp to Zentyal shares ended.
I reviewed the github changelog entries before applying the updates;
ftp 3.3.1
+ Fix the enabling of the chrootUsers option
and,
samba +3.3.5
+ ad-migrate: Detect offline role owner and seize roles
+ Fixed setting of printers permissions
+ s4sync: Check samba daemon is running
Regardless, after the failure, the dozen odd logs I monitored while testing were not logging errors or failures, but I eventually traced this down to the ftp module option Restrict to personal directories. I knew this wasn't working properly since install because I was able to ftp to shares outside of personal directories, once unchecked the printer was able to scan to ftp to samba shares again.
As always, remember, when presented with updates to community Zentyal, be afraid, be very afraid.
I reviewed the github changelog entries before applying the updates;
ftp 3.3.1
+ Fix the enabling of the chrootUsers option
and,
samba +3.3.5
+ ad-migrate: Detect offline role owner and seize roles
+ Fixed setting of printers permissions
+ s4sync: Check samba daemon is running
Regardless, after the failure, the dozen odd logs I monitored while testing were not logging errors or failures, but I eventually traced this down to the ftp module option Restrict to personal directories. I knew this wasn't working properly since install because I was able to ftp to shares outside of personal directories, once unchecked the printer was able to scan to ftp to samba shares again.
As always, remember, when presented with updates to community Zentyal, be afraid, be very afraid.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: I blithely unticked the :443 default...
« on: March 24, 2014, 11:50:53 pm »
433 is an odd port, you wouldn't get that with a checkbox.
Why don't you change it to 443 and restart, I think it's; sudo /etc/init.d/zentyal webadmin restart
Beyond this point you'll need to look through your logs /var/log/
Why don't you change it to 443 and restart, I think it's; sudo /etc/init.d/zentyal webadmin restart
Beyond this point you'll need to look through your logs /var/log/
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: I blithely unticked the :443 default...
« on: March 24, 2014, 06:54:05 pm »
I don't know what checkbox you're talking about, usually the numbers have to be filled in to a field.
From the cli you could look in /var/lib/zentyal/conf/nginx.conf , then look for server and see what port it's listening on, it should be 443.
From the cli you could look in /var/lib/zentyal/conf/nginx.conf , then look for server and see what port it's listening on, it should be 443.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Manual upgrade to 3.4 version but disappeared localhost web interface
« on: March 19, 2014, 10:29:44 pm »
also look in; /var/log/zentyal
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Manual upgrade to 3.4 version but disappeared localhost web interface
« on: March 19, 2014, 10:13:05 pm »
Well, you didn't upgrade the distro, that's good.
Assuming you're on the local machine.
run
run
look for the .conf file location, ie; /var/lib/zentyal/conf/nginx.conf
cat the file location, look for the log location, ie; /var/log/zentyal/error.log see what you see in the logs that give you an idea of the problem.
Assuming you're on the local machine.
run
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ps aux | grep apacheand run
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ps aux | grep nginxlook for the .conf file location, ie; /var/lib/zentyal/conf/nginx.conf
cat the file location, look for the log location, ie; /var/log/zentyal/error.log see what you see in the logs that give you an idea of the problem.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Manual upgrade to 3.4 version but disappeared localhost web interface
« on: March 19, 2014, 06:26:49 pm »
if you're on 13.10, run lsb_release -a from the cli to see, there's no downgrading.
You could look through the logs for apache2 and nginx in /var/logs to see if there's something that might help recover the gui and go from there.
You could look through the logs for apache2 and nginx in /var/logs to see if there's something that might help recover the gui and go from there.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Manual upgrade to 3.4 version but disappeared localhost web interface
« on: March 19, 2014, 05:21:00 pm »
Because Zentyal has migrated its gui from Apache to Nginx, the 3.4 upgrade also upgraded distro's.
You're in for a bit of work if it's fixable. I would start over.
http://www.zentyal.org/zentyal-release-policy/
You're in for a bit of work if it's fixable. I would start over.
http://www.zentyal.org/zentyal-release-policy/
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Change DNS Zentyal 3.3.5
« on: March 18, 2014, 12:37:46 am »
In the DNS module, add a forwarder... from what I'm guessing you're asking.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal 3.3 Crushed, no internet after todays samba update.
« on: March 14, 2014, 05:45:54 pm »
I also had a Zentyal install killed by that update, I didn't have time to troubleshoot it, but removing samba as above from the command line brought the Zentyal install back to life and allowed updating to the lastest, 3.3.5, then, re-installing file sharing brought samba back with all settings and shares intact.