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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal router and mPCIe LTE modem
« on: January 16, 2017, 01:29:56 pm »
Pretty sure the answer is no and even if if it was yes, Zentyal really has never been the distro for that kind of thing, more of a job for 'router' type option like IPCOP, m00nwall etc.
Even then you may encounter issues as cable/DSL boxes these day are now almost always standalone boxes connected by Ethernet and LTE/3G Modems are typically USB its those form factor devices that are supported best.

Wow, look at all that time you gave them....

I think Zentyal has the same issue as many other projects with similar ambitions. Specifically that is identifying a clear funding structure for their product and a feature set and pricing that generates interest in their product. In too many cases the reason for adopting these projects appears to be to NOT use Microsoft/Other giant Corp. This is frankly lazy and is simply trying to trade off the idea that MS is somehow evil and that is is cool or trendy to not like or use them. Instead these products should offer valid business reasons, security, and features that mean their product genuinely competes with MS, Oracle, Salesforce, SAP or whoever it is they are targeting. If they are open source, access to patches, forums and features should be freely available and the payment of support charges should NEVER affect your ability to run the latest STABLE product.
There is a clear obstacle for many small companies to use the closed source Enterprise products they are:

  • Significant buy in costs - but perhaps not for much longer with SAAS products
  • Poor pricing structures that do not scale down to small companies
  • Expensive support from official partners - I'm sorry but its not the same magic voodoo it was 30 years ago folks, time to take a pay cut.
  • Complex licencing models that make it impossible to cost a project yourself.
  • Secretive pricing - PUT THE PRICE ON THE FRONT PAGE!

Zentyal in its current form is possibly the worst example.
  • It wants you to pay fairly significant sums for support
  • It doesn't allow access to the stable product without paying for support
  • The Stable product get its own special patches
  • It's primary offerings are copycat, there is no innovation
  • Its product is unstable & immature
  • It drops features between versions. - I'm sorry guys but even if you can't afford to continue development on a module surely you can leave it in place as it is, all the modules do is setup a config file anyway in most cases
  • Reluctance to adopt a marketplace for selling additional modules and features, despite that being a very easy way of generating revenue and keeping people happy who have lost out due to your roadmap

Installation and Upgrades / Re: Anyone having success with Zentyal 4.0?
« on: November 25, 2014, 05:41:55 pm »
I would suggest that given its not 100% feature complete and will always lag somewhat behind Exchange/Outlook you need to have a specific reason for not using a hosted solution. Especially now that Office 365 has made some of the hosted options much more affordable than they used to be. The answer could be different if you needed to host your own server for local users anyway YMMV

Hah, that'll teach me! I haven't dared try 4.0. In that case its in the same place as it is in Zentyal 3.5 I assume it does work there..... I might try on it just to check.

You need to use the domain.
Then you need to setup fetchmail/getmail to retrieve your email from your POP accounts and deliver it to your users. This used to be possible to setup form inside Zentyal but I think they removed it in version 4 meaning you have to do it yourself. That said it is not difficult to do and is quite well documented.
For sending email you should probably configure a smarthost so that all outgoing email is relayed via the SMTP server provided by whoever hosts your POP3/ This is because many if not most email servers will do some very basic spam filtering that drops emails where the sending server has an IP address from what they might consider a dynamic pool rather than one associated somehow with your domain or MX record.
Of course another option is to ask your provider to deliver all your domain emails to your server via SMTP (typically in response to a finger or something if your IP is dynamic) and let your server sort it all out.

Samba AD is supposedly Active Directory compatible  and Owncloud supports that, so in theory it should be possible. One possible avenue to look at would be to setup an up to date Samba4 domain on something like OpenSuse so that you can see if its is a Samba4 issue you are seeing or a Zentyal config one.

Installation and Upgrades / Re: NAS setup
« on: November 10, 2014, 01:47:58 pm »
If you are refurbishing lots of machines, is it not standard practice to wipe the drive and then install Windows afresh? In which case you should slipstream all the required files into your master Windows media and then install Windows using the OPK letting you do multiple identical machines at once.
It might take a while for a fresh,default install of Windows to identify all SMB shares on the network, so you can browse to them via explorer. In such instances its possible to get there a bit quicker by simply typing \\NAS-ip-address into the explorer address bar. Does your default windows install have the file sharing service turned off or firewalled?
I've said it before, if you're simply after a NAS, Zentyal is not the solution for you. Try one of the dedicated NAS distributions, or just use plain old Ubuntu/CentOS/Fedora/openSuse... setting up basic shares is easy in all of them.
You might find it easier if you do use a username and password even if its very simple and everyone knows it, don't ask why...

Installation and Upgrades / Re: Backup/Duplicity problem
« on: November 10, 2014, 12:35:43 pm »
Zentyal 2.2 is running on ubuntu 10.04, the version of duplicity available in the repo's is IIRC quite out of date and does contain a few known minor bugs. I don't think any of those are your problem however and it looks like you are looking in the right places by checking available space for temporary files.
Personally I found the Zentyal duplicity frontend a little slow,inflexible and unwieldy so I stopped relying on it. However I never turned it off but now notice its not working for me either. Have you tried running the duplicity commands manually without using the Zentyal wrapper scripts?
Perhaps remove the backup module and then restore it. Or remove the backup module and then use install configure and run duplicity manually or with another GUI.
There are a lot of backup solutions out there, Amanda and Bacula are popular options, particularly if you want to backup client too, but I think they are overly complex for many users as they are designed for enterprise. Personally I haven't yet hit on the perfect backup solution for local copies, I use Jungledisk for my offsite backup.

It's the community version and that is their long stated policy, why surprised?

Installation and Upgrades / Re: Userside passwords change
« on: November 03, 2014, 04:05:45 pm »
3 months is frankly ridiculous, all you're doing there is really annoying your users.
Password security needs to take account of the ease of breaking the password, and what a typical user can be expected to remember.
The most recent research I have read suggests that frequent password changes will encourage your users to use obvious passwords that are easy to guess or remember, or they compromise your security by writing it down on their phone or some other easily mislaid item like a postit.
I would instead focus on ensuring the passwords used are of a sensible length to make cracking them difficult.

I used to do this with Mercury too, pretty sure when I switched to Linux, fetchmail was more than happy to be configured to deliver email to the To: address rather than into one specific mailbox. IIRC you should consult the fetchmail manual for "multidrop", I'm pretty sure webmin knows how to set this up for you if you struggle with the manuals. You can't set this up using the Zentyal interface.

Installation and Upgrades / Re: LDAP Permissions
« on: October 06, 2014, 03:38:07 pm »
Surely if somebody can add/create something they can also modify something of the same level. so if they can add a group or user they would already have the power to modify one much like file ownership, from that perspective I think your requirement has flaws.
I could see the logic in a 'group' admin/mamager having the power to add/modify users in their group however and this is a feature you see in other Groupware/email packages so maybe it is or will be possible in Zentyal one day.

Installation and Upgrades / Re: OpenMediavault Ldap Auth
« on: September 29, 2014, 05:59:57 pm »
IIRC LDAP was not previously using the built in samba LDAP service so they had to have all sorts of things going on synchronizing multiple directory services. In 3.5 LDAP is now provided by Samba making things much simpler for the future.
As far as I understand it it is a similar situation that means you do not yet see full implementations of Samba 4 on other distros just yet. They are still working on integrating their LDAP of choice in a manner that makes sense to their roadmaps.

Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal failing to load
« on: September 29, 2014, 05:39:11 pm »
Is it connected to exactly the same port on the motherboard as it was before? Have you altered something like the boot order in the BIOS, or updated the BIOS?
I don't fiddle with these things often enough to be 100% confident but I would be looking to see if the identity of your hard drive has changed so while it can load the boot record the entries on it are pointing at a place that does not exist. Probably quite easy to fix with an Ubuntu or Zentyal installation disk.

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