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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [SOLVED] Zentyal 4 will not boot on a HP Microserver Gen8, but Ubuntu will.
« on: March 17, 2015, 11:43:29 pm »
For some reason, /dev/sdb1 was marked as 'active' (or 'bootable'), but /dev/sda1 was NOT. This caused the BIOS to skip booting from the first disk.
I am not clear why this happened, but at least this problem seems to be tackled now.
I am not clear why this happened, but at least this problem seems to be tackled now.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [NOT SOLVED] Zentyal 4 will not boot on a HP Microserver Gen8, but Ubuntu will.
« on: March 12, 2015, 01:28:13 am »
Even a 10G ext2 boot partition didn't do it....
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [NOT SOLVED] Zentyal 4 will not boot on a HP Microserver Gen8, but Ubuntu will.
« on: March 12, 2015, 12:54:37 am »
Installing Ubuntu with Raid-1 on this machine also does not even see grub. I am so flabbergasted.
Is there some limitation as to using ext4?
Is there some limitation as to using ext4?
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [NOT SOLVED] Zentyal 4 will not boot on a HP Microserver Gen8, but Ubuntu will.
« on: March 11, 2015, 10:13:00 pm »
I still need help. The zentyal install goes perfectly when installing on only one disk; but it goes wrong when configuring the disks as RAID-1. Then it totally skips grub, as if it was never on the MBR.
So, Installing Zentyal in 'standard' mode (just day YES to everything) results in a bootable machine; Going the 'expert' route and configuring the disks as RAID-1, results in unbootable server, in so far that not even GRUB is loaded.
I wish someone had some magic here.
So, Installing Zentyal in 'standard' mode (just day YES to everything) results in a bootable machine; Going the 'expert' route and configuring the disks as RAID-1, results in unbootable server, in so far that not even GRUB is loaded.
I wish someone had some magic here.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [NOT SOLVED] Zentyal 4 will not boot on a HP Microserver Gen8, but Ubuntu will.
« on: January 29, 2015, 04:23:33 am »
Some on irc #grub told met to use the bootinfo script, I did that, this is the result: http://pastebin.com/c0Tv74BR
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [SOLVED] Zentyal 4 will not boot on a HP Microserver Gen8, but Ubuntu will.
« on: January 29, 2015, 04:08:49 am »
So, after installing Zentyal succefully as 'non-expert', I know am reinstalling it in expert mode. At some point it tells me that the installer has detected mounted partition on /dev/sda.
Opening a terminal with 'alt-f2' and looking at df, it seems that /dev/sda1 is mounted on /media.
The installer ask to try and umount it, and I choose YES.
I then go to the 'manual' partition option, and:
- delete /dev/sda1
- delete the swap partition on /dev/sda
- create 4 new primary partitions: 100GB, 4GB, 500GB, 396GB, in that order, and mark them all as physical disk for RAID.
- create a new partition tabel on /dev/sdb, and then create exactly the same partitions as on /dev/sda
Then I go to configure RAID, and the installer writes the partitions to disk before it lets me create MD devices.
I strat to create the first MD device, RAID1, all default options, and get a list of devices. I want to use /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1, but /dev/sdb1 is not in the list! (/dev/sda1234 are, and /dev/sdb234 too)
What happened? A quick peek at the terminal tells me that there are 3 block device (with blkid)
/dev/sdc1 (the usb stick)
/dev/sda1 (formatted as ext4, from the previoius install !!!!!)
/dev/sdb1 (TYPE=linux_raid_member).
Remember, that disk had no partition tabel (and i wiped it with dd first!)
cat /proc/mdstat indeed tells me that there is one md device:
md127 inactive sdb1([1](S)
soooooooooooooooooo.... the partitioner/installer/os picked up a partition that once upon a time was created as linux raid autodetect!
(that was happening to me various times yesterday, before I decided to wipe the disk with dd... which aparantely not helped, maybe some superblockl laying around? Can't bend my head around this one!!!
So, i use the installer option to delete this device, and after that, create the 4 raid devices, now /dev/sdb1 is in the list.
The next step is assignng these drives.
So, I assign Raid device #1 (99.9GB, 512 B unusable) to ext4, mount point /
(all the devices have 512 B unusable)
#2 4GB swap area
#3 499.9 GB /home, reserved area 0%
#4 396.1 GB /data, reserved area 0%
This is how I've done it hundreds of times :-)
After 'finish, write to disk', it all seems find, and I get asked if I want to do without X, no, I want X, and then 'installing the system....'
and low and behold! The install succeeded! (In previous tries, it gave the busybox error).
When all is done, I remove the usb stick while it's rebooting, and ... it skips booting from the harddrive, and goes straight in to network booting.
To describe the process followed until now:
1. install Zentyal 4 in expert mode with software raid, all is well, but it doesn't boot from harddisk.
2. try several other installs, as in Ubuntu desktop/guided (works well), Ubuntu server (doesn't boot),
3. try more installs, but get thwarted by either 'this partitions is already mounted', 'ext4 filesystem creation failed' or 'busybox can not be installed'
4. wipe disks
5. finally (after 18 tries, I kid you not) back at sqaure 1.
Opening a terminal with 'alt-f2' and looking at df, it seems that /dev/sda1 is mounted on /media.
The installer ask to try and umount it, and I choose YES.
I then go to the 'manual' partition option, and:
- delete /dev/sda1
- delete the swap partition on /dev/sda
- create 4 new primary partitions: 100GB, 4GB, 500GB, 396GB, in that order, and mark them all as physical disk for RAID.
- create a new partition tabel on /dev/sdb, and then create exactly the same partitions as on /dev/sda
Then I go to configure RAID, and the installer writes the partitions to disk before it lets me create MD devices.
I strat to create the first MD device, RAID1, all default options, and get a list of devices. I want to use /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1, but /dev/sdb1 is not in the list! (/dev/sda1234 are, and /dev/sdb234 too)
What happened? A quick peek at the terminal tells me that there are 3 block device (with blkid)
/dev/sdc1 (the usb stick)
/dev/sda1 (formatted as ext4, from the previoius install !!!!!)
/dev/sdb1 (TYPE=linux_raid_member).
Remember, that disk had no partition tabel (and i wiped it with dd first!)
cat /proc/mdstat indeed tells me that there is one md device:
md127 inactive sdb1([1](S)
soooooooooooooooooo.... the partitioner/installer/os picked up a partition that once upon a time was created as linux raid autodetect!
(that was happening to me various times yesterday, before I decided to wipe the disk with dd... which aparantely not helped, maybe some superblockl laying around? Can't bend my head around this one!!!
So, i use the installer option to delete this device, and after that, create the 4 raid devices, now /dev/sdb1 is in the list.
The next step is assignng these drives.
So, I assign Raid device #1 (99.9GB, 512 B unusable) to ext4, mount point /
(all the devices have 512 B unusable)
#2 4GB swap area
#3 499.9 GB /home, reserved area 0%
#4 396.1 GB /data, reserved area 0%
This is how I've done it hundreds of times :-)
After 'finish, write to disk', it all seems find, and I get asked if I want to do without X, no, I want X, and then 'installing the system....'
and low and behold! The install succeeded! (In previous tries, it gave the busybox error).
When all is done, I remove the usb stick while it's rebooting, and ... it skips booting from the harddrive, and goes straight in to network booting.
To describe the process followed until now:
1. install Zentyal 4 in expert mode with software raid, all is well, but it doesn't boot from harddisk.
2. try several other installs, as in Ubuntu desktop/guided (works well), Ubuntu server (doesn't boot),
3. try more installs, but get thwarted by either 'this partitions is already mounted', 'ext4 filesystem creation failed' or 'busybox can not be installed'
4. wipe disks
5. finally (after 18 tries, I kid you not) back at sqaure 1.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [SOLVED] Zentyal 4 will not boot on a HP Microserver Gen8, but Ubuntu will.
« on: January 29, 2015, 03:00:19 am »
Apparently, this had to do with the RAID configuration.
I installed Zentyal in Expert mode, made 4 primary partitions on both disks:
100 GB / ext4
4 GB swap
500 GB /home ext4
390 GB /data ext4
While Zentyal installed correctly, after the first reboot, the server skipped booting from the harddisks.
I tried rescue disk and reinstall GRUB, (on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb), didn't work.
Then I installed Ubuntu 14.04 desktop amd64 over it, using guided installation. It booted fine.
Then I donwloaded Ubuntu 14.04 server amd64, and installed the same partions as above, and it installed, but didn't boot!
After that a lot of problems, for instance, the next try at installing zentyal on the already existing mdadm partitions didn't work, because it activated the raid devices it found (autodetect). This resulted in an error 'can not install busybox' (something similar to this error: http://serverfault.com/questions/512225/installation-of-64-bit-ubuntu-13-04-server-fails-with-unable-to-install-busybox
Then even more problems, as I tried to install the ubuntu desktop again - using guided partitioning - filesystem can not be created on /dev/sda5 (or something).
This got worse and worse, until in the end I did a rescue disk and dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=32768 (and for sdb too).
Only after I totally erased both disks, I could then install Zentyal 4 (but not in expert mode), and it installed perfectly and booted too.
But now I still don't have software raid on the server, so the next try will be to try the expert mode again, and use the same partitions as above, to see if it will work this time.
The system should be able to boot from a 99 GB root disk (including /boot) that is RAID-1 and ext4?
I don't think there is the need to make a /boot partition without raid and ext2?
Grub didn't even load, so I don't think it's a problem with /boot...
I installed Zentyal in Expert mode, made 4 primary partitions on both disks:
100 GB / ext4
4 GB swap
500 GB /home ext4
390 GB /data ext4
While Zentyal installed correctly, after the first reboot, the server skipped booting from the harddisks.
I tried rescue disk and reinstall GRUB, (on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb), didn't work.
Then I installed Ubuntu 14.04 desktop amd64 over it, using guided installation. It booted fine.
Then I donwloaded Ubuntu 14.04 server amd64, and installed the same partions as above, and it installed, but didn't boot!
After that a lot of problems, for instance, the next try at installing zentyal on the already existing mdadm partitions didn't work, because it activated the raid devices it found (autodetect). This resulted in an error 'can not install busybox' (something similar to this error: http://serverfault.com/questions/512225/installation-of-64-bit-ubuntu-13-04-server-fails-with-unable-to-install-busybox
Then even more problems, as I tried to install the ubuntu desktop again - using guided partitioning - filesystem can not be created on /dev/sda5 (or something).
This got worse and worse, until in the end I did a rescue disk and dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=32768 (and for sdb too).
Only after I totally erased both disks, I could then install Zentyal 4 (but not in expert mode), and it installed perfectly and booted too.
But now I still don't have software raid on the server, so the next try will be to try the expert mode again, and use the same partitions as above, to see if it will work this time.
The system should be able to boot from a 99 GB root disk (including /boot) that is RAID-1 and ext4?
I don't think there is the need to make a /boot partition without raid and ext2?
Grub didn't even load, so I don't think it's a problem with /boot...
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal 4 will not boot on a HP Microserver Gen8, but Ubuntu will.
« on: January 26, 2015, 10:43:51 pm »
Correction: Ubuntu 14.04 SERVER versions also doesn't want to boot. Only the desktop version of Ubuntu, boots.
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Installation and Upgrades / [SOLVED] Zentyal 4 will not boot on a HP Microserver Gen8, but Ubuntu will.
« on: January 26, 2015, 08:59:51 pm »
I installed Zentyal on a HP Microserver Gen8, and afer install it won't boot from the first disk (HP calls it 'C:', how funny).
I tried several times, and also booted with rescue disk, the install seems to be okay it just doesnt' boot.
Then I installed Ubuntu 14.04 AMD64 and it booted right away.
So, apparentley there is some difference between de Zentyal 4.0 bootloader and the one from Ubuntu.
I tried several times, and also booted with rescue disk, the install seems to be okay it just doesnt' boot.
Then I installed Ubuntu 14.04 AMD64 and it booted right away.
So, apparentley there is some difference between de Zentyal 4.0 bootloader and the one from Ubuntu.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [SOLVED] Zentyal extremely slow
« on: April 14, 2013, 12:17:31 am »
No Zarafa, no users, except 2 or 3 on samba in one case and 15 on samba in another case. I use it mainly as firewall/router and only use the file sharing bit - sometmes with sshfs and sometimes with netatalk and sometimes with samba.
Anyway, this discussion seems to lead nowhere - as a experieced and fanatic open source user, I am happy to use Zentyal for those clients that I can convince to let me do their management. But when I talk to windows sysops, there is already a lot of lack of knowledge - they keep talking about 'I don't know how the server is setup' when wat they really don't know is how windows filesharing and networking works.
I am just saying, the interface is slow, compared wiht untangle or gibraltar for instance.
That's all.
Cheers
ace
Anyway, this discussion seems to lead nowhere - as a experieced and fanatic open source user, I am happy to use Zentyal for those clients that I can convince to let me do their management. But when I talk to windows sysops, there is already a lot of lack of knowledge - they keep talking about 'I don't know how the server is setup' when wat they really don't know is how windows filesharing and networking works.
I am just saying, the interface is slow, compared wiht untangle or gibraltar for instance.
That's all.
Cheers
ace
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [SOLVED] Zentyal extremely slow
« on: April 11, 2013, 03:08:08 pm »
My dear Zen Hero
Maybe you have indeed so much Zen!
But what about having 10 HP40NL? what about 20?
Maybe then your 'decision' will be influenced differently!!
Ohmmmmmm
Maybe you have indeed so much Zen!
But what about having 10 HP40NL? what about 20?
Maybe then your 'decision' will be influenced differently!!
Ohmmmmmm
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [SOLVED] Zentyal extremely slow
« on: April 11, 2013, 01:24:53 pm »
> However, I would not say it has significant impact on your decision to go or not to go for Zentyal.
Really? Are we back in the days of linux 1.0 so that user experience doesnt' matter? Shame on you my friend ;-)
I myself am complaining about the UI, how would the MS lovers think about that?
Everything is fat (or normal, as you've come to learn the speed of GNU/Linux) except the UI.
There's got to be some thing that can be done about that...
Really? Are we back in the days of linux 1.0 so that user experience doesnt' matter? Shame on you my friend ;-)
I myself am complaining about the UI, how would the MS lovers think about that?
Everything is fat (or normal, as you've come to learn the speed of GNU/Linux) except the UI.
There's got to be some thing that can be done about that...
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [SOLVED] Zentyal extremely slow
« on: April 11, 2013, 12:53:35 pm »
3.0 is not faster on the HP40NL!
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [SOLVED] Zentyal extremely slow
« on: April 11, 2013, 12:51:43 pm »
half-life, thx for looking in to this.
The machines are all HP Microservers, http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009.html?dnr=1
With either one or 2 GB.
Load is typically low,
06:48:29 up 12 days, 20:54, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.05, 0.06 from one machine
and 06:49:02 up 6 days, 20:29, 4 users, load average: 0.49, 0.69, 0.75 from another
(I have 5 deployed and all with zentyal yayh!)
The web interface experience is like posted above, not at all snappy, even when on the console.
click...wait describes it well.
If you want, I can give you a login at a test machine :-)
In any case, I can work with it but it's not a good recommendation for to convince all those windows system managers to switch over
cheers
ace
The machines are all HP Microservers, http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009.html?dnr=1
With either one or 2 GB.
Load is typically low,
06:48:29 up 12 days, 20:54, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.05, 0.06 from one machine
and 06:49:02 up 6 days, 20:29, 4 users, load average: 0.49, 0.69, 0.75 from another
(I have 5 deployed and all with zentyal yayh!)
The web interface experience is like posted above, not at all snappy, even when on the console.
click...wait describes it well.
If you want, I can give you a login at a test machine :-)
In any case, I can work with it but it's not a good recommendation for to convince all those windows system managers to switch over
cheers
ace
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: [SOLVED] Zentyal extremely slow
« on: April 09, 2013, 05:10:22 am »
Totally off-topic, but the web interface is extremely slow. Even on the console (FF).
Why is that? It's a bunch of perl scripts... shouldn't be that slow.
I really want to know WHY and no sniping involved.
Ace
Why is that? It's a bunch of perl scripts... shouldn't be that slow.
I really want to know WHY and no sniping involved.
Ace