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Plex & sab are installed via repo's maintained by the developers of those softwares.  They just need open ports, same as ssh.  I simply list them as examples of the fact that it seems all external access is shut off.

I do have rules allowing ssh, and any other ports I need.  I have not changed those rules.  They all worked great until I started messing with port forwarding for the camera.

What exactly would you like me to post?  I'll be happy to do so.

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I will check that when I get home (about 7-8 hours from this post).  I did think of this, but didn't have time to actually test it today. 

I want do want to be clear about one thing.  I do NOT think Zentyal, or the community are bad.  I simply think they may not be the solution I need.  Which is sad, b/c I like the idea behind this product.

Got home, did this, and the only change was that I couldn't view my webcam from external networks.  I still couldn't see get into anything (ssh, sab, plex, etc) from external networks.

Very frustrating.

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Perhaps I should not comment here, you've got the experts helping out already  :)
But I want to comment on the port forwarding issue.
I see you are using firewall rules. I don't do that. In fact, to forward a port, you just go to Firewall > Port forwarding and set it up.
After saving it should work instantly.
On my network I've got about five cams, they can be viewed from the outside just fine.

I would suggest you try the above procedure first, removing the previously created rule that may prevent you from using other services on your network.

Last but not least, Zentyal can definitely do what you want, as a matter of fact it's hosting several services including webserver, xbox and cams at my place and if there ever were problems, port forwarding isn't one of them.

Cheers.

I'll check that out too.  Thanks.  Although I did try that FIRST. 

And I am aware that it CAN do what I want.  But it doesn't seem to like me.  :/  S

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I will check that when I get home (about 7-8 hours from this post).  I did think of this, but didn't have time to actually test it today. 

I want do want to be clear about one thing.  I do NOT think Zentyal, or the community are bad.  I simply think they may not be the solution I need.  Which is sad, b/c I like the idea behind this product.

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Actually, I did NOT expect an answer to this over night (again, my poor communication skills).  My perception of the lack of community support is based on both another issue I have had, AND the posts I often see.

However, as I have now tried explaining myself twice, and failed, perhaps it would be better if I was asked specific questions?

I don't know how else to say that anything on my network (anything having a 192.168.1.XXX address) can access my server via ssh, or the web interface of various services I am running.  But anything external to my network (my cellphone when on 3g, my work computer, my mother's computer, a computer at the library) can not.  And all this happened right after I set up a single port forwarding rule.

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The Community stuff first: 

1) I'm sorry for that.  I know I have often have communication issues, but I do try.

2) I know.  But it seems to be growing VERY slowly.  :/  And while I don't need the level of support the pay for options give, I DO need some support.

3) Hadn't considered this at all.

As to the issues at hand:

I'm not completely clear what is going on myself.

A recap.  A week ago, everything was working well (except web hosting, which I posted about in a different thread, and still haven't fixed).

Yesterday I added a FOSCAM 8918W IP Cam to my network.  It's on a static IP.  It works.

I added rules to forward port 8383 to from the external (internet) to my IP cam.  At first, nothing I did would make the port forwarding work.  I had to quit working on it and went to work.  When I got to work (about an hour later), I tested from work and I could get to the web cam.  But I could not get to any other service my Zentyal server runs.  Not even it's web admin page, or ssh.

What I want is for all my other services to work like they once did (including web serving), and have my port forwarding work.  Should be simple.  But I have found that nothing is simple w/ Zentyal.  Which is a shame, as the idea behind it is truly wonderful.

As to giving up - I haven't yet.  But I am looking at other solutions that may fit me better.

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Ok, so now the port forwarding works.  But nothing else seems to.  From inside my network I can get to anything on my server (except apache served web pages, but that is an old issue still unsolved).

But from an external network EVERYTHING gets connection refused, except the cam that has it's port forwarded.  ssh, a sabnzb server I run, a Plex server I run.

And, honestly, I don't have much hope in this community to fix it.  I have found that this community, while polite and never rude or disrespectful, is not particularly responsive.

So, at this time I am also begining to look at other solutions for my home server.

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I have an IP Webcam I am planning on using as a baby monitor.  One of my favorite reasons for using this is that I can monitor, in theory, from anywhere.

I have it all set up so that it works fine on my internal network.  My network looks something like this:
Inet - modem - Zentyal box - switch - wireless ap - webcam
                                                  - <a few wired devices>

My Zentyal box has 2 NICS.  One has a static exteranl ip - that's eth0, and a static internal IP 192.168.1.1, that's eth1.

My camera is on port XXXX. ;) 

Packet filter rules:

External nets to Zent has a rule to allow any source to port XXXX.
Ext. nets to internal nets has the same rule.

I have the following rule for port forwarding:

Interface    Original destination    Protocol    Original destination port    Source    Destination IP    Port    Replace source address      
eth0            Zentyal                    All            XXXX                            Any             CAM-IP             Same   (not chekced)


My problem is, it doesn't seem to forward.  going ot a webbrowser and putting in <external IP>:XXXX does not get me my camera.  Gets me a 'can't find web page' generic error from my web browser or phone app.


I've tried many different settings in the port forwarding section of zentyal, and now I am at a loss.  Any help is appreciated.

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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Web Server not working
« on: June 28, 2012, 11:09:03 pm »
I don't think I'm getting myself across properly. 

My systems inside my network can browse all web pages fine.  EXCEPT my webpage that is hosted on my Zen server. 
What is not functioning is the web page I am trying to serve out to the world. 

My proxy works, my gateway works.

But http://tymanthius.net does NOT work.  It used to. I have no idea what changed.


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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Web Server not working
« on: June 28, 2012, 04:25:03 am »
Do you have Zentyal GW module running?
Did you activate proxy? and if so, in what mode?
Can you restart squid and dansguardian?

When I google on your errormessage (The system returned: (111) Connection refused) I get a lot of squid entries back.

What do your logs say?

GW module?  If that's Groupware, no.

Proxy is running, Transparent, Ad Blocking.  Although what that has to do with me being able to view web pages that my server should be serving up to outside systems, I'm not sure.

Restarted squid, dansguardian isn't configured.  Again, not sure what squid has to do with serving web pages.
As to the logs, not much I can see in there.  A few php errors, and a complaint that robots.txt doesn't exist.

LinuxManiac:

Yep, restarted apache2 multiple times.  Rebooted the server too.  No change.

So, to recap:  My system used to serve up webpages that I could view from work, or a coffee shop, or wherever.  Now it doesn't.

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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Block Ultra Surf
« on: June 26, 2012, 04:43:25 am »

btw, I don't know in what kind of situation you are, but over here in .nl and .be when an employe gets caught bypassing company policies, he risks being fired at once. This said, you might want to communicate to your users that using this kind of software is illegal and not tolerated. PLaying cat and mouse is imo not the way to deal with this kind of issues.

Illegal might be the wrong word.  As you're in nl, I'm assuming English is a 2nd language (congratulations - I only have 1).  Illegal means against the law.  What you are describing is against company policy. Illegal could get you put in jail.  Company policy could get you fired. 



In a country where something like UltraSurf is illegal, I fully support it's use.  But useing it at work b/c you want to view YouTube, or whatever, I don't support.

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Installation and Upgrades / Web Server not working
« on: June 25, 2012, 01:43:13 am »
My web server used to work just fine.  I do not know what has changed to cause it to go offline, but suddenly I can not get to my web pages.

When I do, I get this error:

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The system returned: (111) Connection refused

The modules are all up, the webserver is set to serve out on port 80, I'm on a business inet account w/ no ports blocked.  I tested this a few days ago.

Any thoughts?

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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Block Ultra Surf
« on: June 24, 2012, 10:23:11 pm »
I briefly looked at UltraSurf's website.  As they use thier own dedicated servers, you could possibly set up IP blocking/DNS blocking so that even if they bring in the US client on a usb stick, they still couldn't even get to the US servers.

No idea how to implement this myself, but it's a thought.

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Installation and Upgrades / Re: FTP Warning DON'T USE IT
« on: June 24, 2012, 10:20:55 pm »
Are you using an Admin/root account to ftp in?  B/c of course they get full access.

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1) Did you try accessing http://your_public_IP/ ? this may not point to your virtual Apache server but at least should show whenever Apache is listening on port 80 on external interface.
2) Any device (like router) between internet and Zentyal? if yes, can you ensure you have the right port forwarding rule?

1)  I did try using my IP.  Same behavior.

2)  Zentyal is my router.  My physical set up is something like this:

Internet - Cable Modem - Zentyal - dumb switch - wireless AP - wireless devices
                                                                      - Wired devices

It appears that Zentyal is simply not listening or serving web pages out to the world. 

As I was writing this, I had a thought, and it was the correct one - my ISP blocks port 80.  So . . . I'll go change the port now.  :)

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