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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Can't access the interent from the Zentyal server, LAN is ok
« on: March 07, 2012, 11:41:31 pm »
Hi, sorry for not responding for so long. I didn't work on the server since then.
I still couldn't figure out where the problem is. There was a default gateway set and the whole thing had worked before.
I searched a little on the internet and tried ifconfig, which shows the following:
So it seems like that there is no connection at all with my network.
Is there a way to find out if the network card is dead? Shouldn't, because the server is basically new, but you never know. Or does the above code already show that the network card is up and running?
I still couldn't figure out where the problem is. There was a default gateway set and the whole thing had worked before.
I searched a little on the internet and tried ifconfig, which shows the following:
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eth1
Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr. d8:d3:85:b2:dd:ea
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:18
So it seems like that there is no connection at all with my network.
Is there a way to find out if the network card is dead? Shouldn't, because the server is basically new, but you never know. Or does the above code already show that the network card is up and running?
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: How would you configure a small business server with 3 or 4 hard disks
« on: December 07, 2011, 04:44:52 pm »
Hi ichat,
Thank you for your opinion. That is what I am looking for. I know that I won't find THE ideal set up, but at least I get different opinions and views on the setup.
I will also look into the option of Raid 5, but at the moment prices for hard disks are quite high and they are already high under normal conditions here in Brazil. So I will try to go with what I have at the moment, I guess.
Maybe for now, while I don't have a 3rd 1TB disk to do backups it is better to have one of the 2 as the data disk and the other for backups and skip the Raid 1 for now and only configure it, once I have the 3rd 1TB disk.
What do you think?
Thank you for your opinion. That is what I am looking for. I know that I won't find THE ideal set up, but at least I get different opinions and views on the setup.
I will also look into the option of Raid 5, but at the moment prices for hard disks are quite high and they are already high under normal conditions here in Brazil. So I will try to go with what I have at the moment, I guess.
Maybe for now, while I don't have a 3rd 1TB disk to do backups it is better to have one of the 2 as the data disk and the other for backups and skip the Raid 1 for now and only configure it, once I have the 3rd 1TB disk.
What do you think?
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: How would you configure a small business server with 3 or 4 hard disks
« on: December 07, 2011, 12:06:53 pm »
Hi Half_life,
Thank you for the the response. This would be the next step, but at the moment I am trying to figure out how to make the best out of the 4 disks in the server itself. I am currently coming from a system with almost no or very sporatic backups, so everything is a step ahead already. But I would like to have a good start, because it is difficult to change things afterwards.
I have one 160gb for the system, 2x 1TB for data and then there is still a slot where I don't have a disk yet.
Thank you for the the response. This would be the next step, but at the moment I am trying to figure out how to make the best out of the 4 disks in the server itself. I am currently coming from a system with almost no or very sporatic backups, so everything is a step ahead already. But I would like to have a good start, because it is difficult to change things afterwards.
I have one 160gb for the system, 2x 1TB for data and then there is still a slot where I don't have a disk yet.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: How would you configure a small business server with 3 or 4 hard disks
« on: December 07, 2011, 12:02:10 am »
Hi Rob,
Thank you for getting back to me.
Well, in theory there would be the possibility to put a disk where the DVD-rom would go, but I guess for the moment I won't go for that.
I heard so many bad things about hardware raid that I wanted to skip this. I am more a "hobby" sysadmin, so I am rather going for the easy and easy controlable stuff. ;-)
Harddisks are fairly expensive down here in Brazil, so I would rather use the 160GB one for now, even if it takes up one valuable slot in the server.
The 3 different disks sound good, but I think our file turnaround isn't that big that it would be worth to go for a external back up every day. Hmm, not easy to decide. What would you recommend as a longer term backup? Or is that not so important? Because in your stategy backups only go back 2-3 days.
Backup to a cloudservice is of course a good idea, but not really an option. Bandwith here in Brazil is ridiculous and we are running on a 10 Mega DSL, which should have 500-600 K upstream. I guess backing up on a cloud service would take me weeks... ;-)
Thank you for getting back to me.
Well, in theory there would be the possibility to put a disk where the DVD-rom would go, but I guess for the moment I won't go for that.
I heard so many bad things about hardware raid that I wanted to skip this. I am more a "hobby" sysadmin, so I am rather going for the easy and easy controlable stuff. ;-)
Harddisks are fairly expensive down here in Brazil, so I would rather use the 160GB one for now, even if it takes up one valuable slot in the server.
The 3 different disks sound good, but I think our file turnaround isn't that big that it would be worth to go for a external back up every day. Hmm, not easy to decide. What would you recommend as a longer term backup? Or is that not so important? Because in your stategy backups only go back 2-3 days.
Backup to a cloudservice is of course a good idea, but not really an option. Bandwith here in Brazil is ridiculous and we are running on a 10 Mega DSL, which should have 500-600 K upstream. I guess backing up on a cloud service would take me weeks... ;-)
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Installation and Upgrades / How would you configure a small business server with 3 or 4 hard disks
« on: December 06, 2011, 10:03:01 pm »
Hi!
First of all, appologies if this is not 100% the correct forum.
I was searching on the net and didn't find any forum that was treating with more general questions about certain setups of a small business server. I thought chances to find some good advice and opinions here would be high.
I own a HP Proliant Microserver n36L where I installed (after a hard fight) Zentyal on the disk that came with the server (160GB).
The server has 4 slots for HDD. So I was thinking I would do the following:
HDD 1 -- 160GB -- Zentyal system partition
HDD 2 -- 1TB -- Software-Raid 1 -- Disk 2.1
HDD 3 -- 1TB -- Software-Raid 1 -- Disk 2.2
HDD 4 -- 1TB -- Backup disk for short term backups
External Docking-Station for SATA, connected via eSata for the long term external backups.
What do you think of this backup? Would you change something? Would you rather drop the Raid 1 for something else?
The server will mainly work as a file server in a small business environment. It should provide us with the possibility to share files and just have one project folder and everyone in the company (3-4 at the moment) have access to certain files.
First of all, appologies if this is not 100% the correct forum.
I was searching on the net and didn't find any forum that was treating with more general questions about certain setups of a small business server. I thought chances to find some good advice and opinions here would be high.
I own a HP Proliant Microserver n36L where I installed (after a hard fight) Zentyal on the disk that came with the server (160GB).
The server has 4 slots for HDD. So I was thinking I would do the following:
HDD 1 -- 160GB -- Zentyal system partition
HDD 2 -- 1TB -- Software-Raid 1 -- Disk 2.1
HDD 3 -- 1TB -- Software-Raid 1 -- Disk 2.2
HDD 4 -- 1TB -- Backup disk for short term backups
External Docking-Station for SATA, connected via eSata for the long term external backups.
What do you think of this backup? Would you change something? Would you rather drop the Raid 1 for something else?
The server will mainly work as a file server in a small business environment. It should provide us with the possibility to share files and just have one project folder and everyone in the company (3-4 at the moment) have access to certain files.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal on a Bootable USB Thumb Drive?
« on: November 23, 2011, 09:30:29 pm »
Hi MidGe,
I sorry for not responding for so long.
Well, here in this thread are quite a few hints. None of them really worked for me, so I found my own solution, as described above. Maybe you have an empty usb-housing for the harddisk and you can install Zentyal on this hard disk from a computer with DVD-Rom-Drive?
I sorry for not responding for so long.
Well, here in this thread are quite a few hints. None of them really worked for me, so I found my own solution, as described above. Maybe you have an empty usb-housing for the harddisk and you can install Zentyal on this hard disk from a computer with DVD-Rom-Drive?
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Installation and Upgrades / Can't access the interent from the Zentyal server, LAN is ok
« on: October 29, 2011, 10:35:45 pm »
I don't know what has happened. I have recently, after a long and hard fight ;-), managed to setup Zentyal on my HP Microserver.
Today I wanted to set up the raid, but I can't access the web from the server anymore (this was working pretty well before). Without internet access, no updates, no software installation.
I didn't configure anything in particular.
Does anyone have a hint what could have gone wrong? I mean the server has an IP and it can access other computers from within the LAN. And I can access it from this notebook. So there must be some configuration that I can't access the web.
Any hint welcome! Where should I look?
Today I wanted to set up the raid, but I can't access the web from the server anymore (this was working pretty well before). Without internet access, no updates, no software installation.
I didn't configure anything in particular.
Does anyone have a hint what could have gone wrong? I mean the server has an IP and it can access other computers from within the LAN. And I can access it from this notebook. So there must be some configuration that I can't access the web.
Any hint welcome! Where should I look?
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: install from pendrive
« on: October 25, 2011, 04:29:47 am »
You might want to have a look at this post here: http://forum.zentyal.org/index.php/topic,5711.0.html
I solved my problem by installing Zentyal directly on the hard disk via a sata docking station. Worked quite well.
I solved my problem by installing Zentyal directly on the hard disk via a sata docking station. Worked quite well.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal on a Bootable USB Thumb Drive?
« on: October 22, 2011, 10:00:16 pm »
OK, so far the server is running. I put the 160gb hard disk into the first slot and in the second and third I have the 1TB disks. As described above, the zentyal installation is on the 160gb one and then I want a Raid 1 on the other two for our data files. Then, one day, the third slot will be for a disk to back up the raid on a short term basis and the sata docking station will contain the more long term backups. It actually has a esata connection, just as the microserver does.
OK, a good idea would be to use the same keyboard as you will use on the server, if you do the installation my way. But then, I guess I am a little weird. Most people will have the same keyboard layout on all computers, but I installed from a notebook with German keyboards and so far I haven't figured out how to get the keyboard to Brazilian layout. Quite annoying with a software like "Zentyal", where you have "z" and "y" on the keyboard, both switched in German.
And now my next task is to figure out how to have the two 1TB disks available for file storage and as a Raid. Then the thingy should be up and running. So maybe this helps someone who has similar problems with the installation from the usb stick. I guess it should work with a normal case for an external hard drive as well, but of course the disk must be bootable.
OK, a good idea would be to use the same keyboard as you will use on the server, if you do the installation my way. But then, I guess I am a little weird. Most people will have the same keyboard layout on all computers, but I installed from a notebook with German keyboards and so far I haven't figured out how to get the keyboard to Brazilian layout. Quite annoying with a software like "Zentyal", where you have "z" and "y" on the keyboard, both switched in German.
And now my next task is to figure out how to have the two 1TB disks available for file storage and as a Raid. Then the thingy should be up and running. So maybe this helps someone who has similar problems with the installation from the usb stick. I guess it should work with a normal case for an external hard drive as well, but of course the disk must be bootable.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal on a Bootable USB Thumb Drive?
« on: October 22, 2011, 05:25:04 am »
OK, here we go again. I was a little busy lately with project work and there was basically no weekend free since then. But tonight I decided to give it another go. There I have this nice little server and 3 hard disks waiting to be filled with our files, which we currently share from each hard disk.
I was a little frustrated by the flash drive install so I decided to take the company SATA HDD Docking Station and the 160GB hard disk which comes with the HP Microserver home and play around a little bit in front of the TV. I connected the docking station to my private notebook, running Ubuntu 11.04 and then I partitioned the HD. I already had installed Ubuntu 11.04 on it (see previous posts) and I wanted to keep it there, just in case. So I reduced the space for 11.04 down to 25 GB (5 currently used), increased the swap to 8GB (will probably want to upgrade the Ram one day) and separated the rest of the 160GB into partitions 25 and 90GB (no file system yet). All via the Ubuntu 11.04 on my notebook.
Then I rebooted and booted from cd-rom (the one of my notebook). Important was to note down that my notebook hd (also 160 GB - very confusing
) was sda and the Microserver hd (in this case in the hd docking) was sdb.
Zentyal installation started just fine. The only slightly tricky part was the partitioning. Of course you need to make sure that you want to format the right parts (only going for the sdb). I set the 25gb partition to ext4 and "/" and the 90GB partition also to ext4 and to "/home" and the now 8GB swap as swap. Somehow Zentyal decided it wants to reformat the swap from sda as well, but I didn't really like this idea and took it out.
Installation worked quite well and I was able to boot from the usb hd to Ubuntu 11.04 as well as to Zentyal 2.2. I played around a little and configured some stuff. Looks pretty good so far.
Well, now comes the most important part. I'll have to take the hard disk with Zentyal installed and put it into the HP Microserver. I hope this works out well. But as it worked from the USB docking, I am quite confident that it will work in the server as well.
Then I will have to figure out how to configure the two 1TB hd that I have there for the file server. I would like to have them as a software raid 1. I haven't seen any option to configure this, but I guess without having the discs there is probably no posibility for this anyway. That probably will be one of my next questions.
I'll keep you updated!
I was a little frustrated by the flash drive install so I decided to take the company SATA HDD Docking Station and the 160GB hard disk which comes with the HP Microserver home and play around a little bit in front of the TV. I connected the docking station to my private notebook, running Ubuntu 11.04 and then I partitioned the HD. I already had installed Ubuntu 11.04 on it (see previous posts) and I wanted to keep it there, just in case. So I reduced the space for 11.04 down to 25 GB (5 currently used), increased the swap to 8GB (will probably want to upgrade the Ram one day) and separated the rest of the 160GB into partitions 25 and 90GB (no file system yet). All via the Ubuntu 11.04 on my notebook.
Then I rebooted and booted from cd-rom (the one of my notebook). Important was to note down that my notebook hd (also 160 GB - very confusing
) was sda and the Microserver hd (in this case in the hd docking) was sdb.Zentyal installation started just fine. The only slightly tricky part was the partitioning. Of course you need to make sure that you want to format the right parts (only going for the sdb). I set the 25gb partition to ext4 and "/" and the 90GB partition also to ext4 and to "/home" and the now 8GB swap as swap. Somehow Zentyal decided it wants to reformat the swap from sda as well, but I didn't really like this idea and took it out.
Installation worked quite well and I was able to boot from the usb hd to Ubuntu 11.04 as well as to Zentyal 2.2. I played around a little and configured some stuff. Looks pretty good so far.
Well, now comes the most important part. I'll have to take the hard disk with Zentyal installed and put it into the HP Microserver. I hope this works out well. But as it worked from the USB docking, I am quite confident that it will work in the server as well.
Then I will have to figure out how to configure the two 1TB hd that I have there for the file server. I would like to have them as a software raid 1. I haven't seen any option to configure this, but I guess without having the discs there is probably no posibility for this anyway. That probably will be one of my next questions.
I'll keep you updated!
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal on a Bootable USB Thumb Drive?
« on: September 30, 2011, 11:35:12 pm »
@wlaszi: Thanks for your response, but my problem is that I can't even choose where to search for the CD/DVD. I just get stuck there.
This weekend I'll give it another try.
Would it be an option to install Zentyal directly to the harddisk (connected via a USB Docking Station)? I could just take the main hard disk from the server and put it into my USB SATA Docking. Then I run a install DVD from my notebook and install it on the disk, which I then put back into the server.
This weekend I'll give it another try.
Would it be an option to install Zentyal directly to the harddisk (connected via a USB Docking Station)? I could just take the main hard disk from the server and put it into my USB SATA Docking. Then I run a install DVD from my notebook and install it on the disk, which I then put back into the server.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal on a Bootable USB Thumb Drive?
« on: September 25, 2011, 03:05:16 am »
That is fine! It is not your fault, is it? But what do you mean with...
Is it gonna get worse afterwards??? hahahaha....
I am sorry this has been such a hassle. It is really discouraging when you can't even get past the installation phase.
Is it gonna get worse afterwards??? hahahaha....
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal on a Bootable USB Thumb Drive?
« on: September 24, 2011, 02:45:41 pm »
I found a 10.04 LTS DVD somewhere in the office.
Will create that stupid stick from there now. But as this little thing here (I am actually writing from the Microserver under Ubuntu 11.04 - which by the way installed like a charm from USB!) has no DVD-drive, what causes the problem in the first place, I'll have to get to a computer with a optical drive first.
Maybe I should just install Freenas. At the end of the day, it will be used mainly as a small file server.
Will create that stupid stick from there now. But as this little thing here (I am actually writing from the Microserver under Ubuntu 11.04 - which by the way installed like a charm from USB!) has no DVD-drive, what causes the problem in the first place, I'll have to get to a computer with a optical drive first.
Maybe I should just install Freenas. At the end of the day, it will be used mainly as a small file server.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal on a Bootable USB Thumb Drive?
« on: September 24, 2011, 02:40:47 pm »
OK, I have created a boot up stick with 11.04, worked fine.
Once I put it in my HP Proliant n36L and started to boot from it I get the following message:
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Syslinux: unkown keyword in Gfx boot.
Boot:
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Once I put it in my HP Proliant n36L and started to boot from it I get the following message:
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Syslinux: unkown keyword in Gfx boot.
Boot:
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal on a Bootable USB Thumb Drive?
« on: September 22, 2011, 12:34:20 am »
ahhh, and after the 11.04 way and before the hard disk way I'll try nalares dd thingy. I hope I'll manage that. ;-)
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