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Title: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: J. A. Calvo on March 27, 2015, 11:38:47 am
Hi all,

The Zentyal Development Team proudly presents Zentyal Server 4.1, a new release with native Microsoft® Exchange protocol implementation and Active Directory interoperability.

This release is completely focused on improving the stability and set of features delivered by the OpenChange module, based on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS to provide the latest stable packages.

Zentyal Server comes in two different flavors: development version, for bleeding edge testing of the latest available features and commercial version for stable production environments.

The Development edition of this new version is available for download at:

http://www.zentyal.org/download

You can check out all the details in the official announcement:

http://wiki.zentyal.org/wiki/Zentyal_4.1_Announcement

Looking forward your feedback and don't forget more updates and new features are coming among next weeks!
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: sotero on March 27, 2015, 04:40:01 pm
No antivirus or mailfilter??

I only use Zentyal as my mail server... looks like I'm gonna have some problems now...  ???
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: orcoliver on March 27, 2015, 08:10:46 pm
No Squid?  :-\
Most used by me!
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: mgiammarco on March 27, 2015, 11:18:57 pm
Is squid gone forever or only for this release?
Is an alternative planned?
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: royceb on March 28, 2015, 05:44:10 pm
No antivirus or mailfilter??

I only use Zentyal as my mail server... looks like I'm gonna have some problems now...  ???

I'm abit taken aback by how many modules they have cut all in the name of focused development/stability of their core product I am not surprised.   Though there is added work to the mix users have 2 options for filtering if they choose.  You can either pay an online web company like Mailroute to filter the messages then pass them onto you or put up your own filtering solution like Scrolloutf1.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: gerald_FS on March 29, 2015, 11:37:12 am
Great!   >:(
Elementary core functions are always trimmed and modified.

a) Virus Scanner
b) Mail Filter
c) Squid
d) bundled network connections (bonding)

What is deleted next ???

Because the packets a to c are as involved again in the future?
And most importantly, when?

regards
Gerald
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: werter on March 29, 2015, 04:10:28 pm
Zentyal replacement
http://www.nethserver.org/learn-more/
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: gsiotas on March 29, 2015, 09:24:09 pm
I agree with werter & gerald_FS.

I have been following Zentyal development since ebox, and looking promising, I decided to install it on my servers since 3.3 release. Since then and especially during the latest 2 releases I have been more that disappointed with the direction of Zentyal team. By removing packets and diminishing features in favor of "stability" will surely lead the community in alternatives. I clearly understand the need of monetizing an open source project but the team should have informed the users of this next "upgrade"/downgrade. There isn't even a mention in the roadmap.

Anyway after testing several alternatives I find the right one for my needs to be nethserver.org (http://nethserver.org)

I wish all the luck to the Zentyal team and I hope Zentyal in the future to move towards a more open source philosophy, not just open source source code :)
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: thomas on March 29, 2015, 10:47:09 pm
I  agree with werter, gerald_FS and gsiotas too

I use Zentyal since the "ebox time" (1.2).
I even tried to promote Zentyal to schools as an "all in one server" as it HAD a lot of network features

But with every new update the community release is trimmed. Over the time a lot of features disappeared (proxy, ids, wan failover, antivirus, web server, traffic shapping, events,  Dynamic DNS etc)

Zentyal is still a great product, but not as a standalone server. Other servers are necessary even in a small network (10-20 computers and devices)

I will too, try to migrate to other more completed (of services) alternatives.
nethserver.org (http://nethserver.org) looks promising. It reminds me the reasons I choose Zentyal a few years ago.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: fmoreira86 on March 30, 2015, 12:10:50 am
Hi!

Upgraded to 4.1.

Some issues:

https://forum.zentyal.org/index.php/topic,24846.0.html

https://forum.zentyal.org/index.php/topic,24845.0.html
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: mburillo on March 30, 2015, 03:37:39 pm
Hello all,

First of all, we understand that old-time Zentyal users are not happy with the current product direction. We have radically changed our focus, and some people joined the project because they liked the original idea, that is inevitable. Now we are developing the only native connector for Microsoft Outlook in a Linux environment, is what makes us unique, our main value (along with a nice interface and integration for the Samba AD) and we don't have the resources to realistically maintain a sizable number of modules that are not related to that scenario. In any case, all the former modules are open source and any volunteer is encouraged to browse the code, maintain it and continue our work:

https://github.com/Zentyal/zentyal/tree/master/contrib

Long story short, we wanted to change our core business, some new friends will come, excited with the new proposal, some old friends will prefer to leave, we thank you all.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: indinet on March 30, 2015, 04:24:37 pm
When you say "old time users" - we have a Commercial Licence bought in December - we bought it because of OpenChange, Mail Filtering etc.  We have not been able to use OpenChange since the disastrous migration, but have been waiting patiently for OpenChange to be usable - we understand that April 2nd is the day.  Now that the core functionality is being removed the recommendation is given not to "upgrade" to Version 4.1 - will this mean that the OpenChange issues will not be resolved.

We bought a Commercial Licence to give us some security, but so far we do not have a usable product, and now it seems that the development we signed up for is being scrapped.

I really hope I have misunderstood - I know the company we bought from are asking the same questions, but with only 2 days to go before we try to migrate again, I would like to know 100%

We are still waiting for a recommended backup solution now that that has also gone - again the worry is that this was to be posted in January.

thanks ...
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: mburillo on March 31, 2015, 12:23:02 pm
Hello,

Regarding the backup solution, there is a tutorial to configure Duplicity since zentyal-backup was no longer maintained:

https://wiki.zentyal.org/wiki/Data_backups_with_Duplicity

For other questions regarding the migration to new versions and features of OpenChange, it is probably much better if you solve these issues through your partner manager/support platform. Forum is for community.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: indinet on March 31, 2015, 01:15:00 pm
Thanks - understood - trying every avenue to try to get answers - getting nothing back.

Will follow up the Duplicity backup ...

regards,
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: eloy crespo on March 31, 2015, 03:20:27 pm
Hello Alex,

I'm Eloy Crespo, Sales Representative at Zentyal. I'm not able to find your Commercial credentials.

Please, contact me if you need any further information. You can also contact info@zentyal.com for further information.

Best regards,

Eloy
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: pcready.cl on March 31, 2015, 10:22:03 pm
no more squid??? why....
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: hgeorge123 on April 01, 2015, 02:48:25 pm
Good I have a question development version that target is created just for testing install or may be used in production environments?
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Wanderton on April 01, 2015, 03:35:31 pm
Greetings, updated the Zentyal to 4.1 and realized that Squid is the proxy server, has been removed.
I do not agree with such removal and if the company does not return this service I see no other solution than to go back to the good old ubuntu server and install the packages you need.

It's a shame that the Zentyal is so focused on the e-mail service, which believe me, is not as priority for many users, and is removing more useful modules for small and medium enterprises in their day to day.

And now what to do? Install squid on ubuntu Zentyal or leave for another Linux distribution?

I appreciate everyone's opinion!
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: indinet on April 01, 2015, 06:21:46 pm
Eloy,

I have emailed you directly - sorry that you do not know ...

Alex
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: supernova on April 01, 2015, 07:59:11 pm
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Remove multi-gateway functionality (balancing, failover, etc)
Remove support for PPPoE, bridged and bundled interfaces

You've got to be kidding me! And I really want to say, ... WTF?!

I'm sorry if there are some replacement features elsewhere. Multi-gateway support is probably the most important reason for us to use Zentyal in our company. We use it to connect to several Internet uplinks, including a PPPoE connection. It does not work perfectly, but it works satisfactorily most of the time.

If these features are removed, 4.1 looks more like a serious and unacceptable downgrade instead of an upgrade to us.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: supernova on April 01, 2015, 08:15:42 pm
Excellent, so Zentyal team is now focusing on developing an Exchange alternative. I'm sorry but I have zero interest in that. If I want Exchange, I'll just get Exchange. It's time for us to evaluate alternatives and abandon Zentyal which abandons us.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: danik on April 01, 2015, 09:07:48 pm
Quote
Remove multi-gateway functionality (balancing, failover, etc)

Why?
I use that feature on one installation. It's one of the important features why I had chosen Zentyal.

I can understand that Zentyal wants to focus on Active Directory and Exchange replacement. That's Ok. I understood that some modules have been removed on the way from 3.3 to 4.0, because the OpenLdap removal caused a major rework to them. But why do you remove working core features? I can't get those features back by building some contrib modules myself.
I thought that feature removal has been finished with version 4.0. So what's next feature on the removal list? The firewall module? NTP? Everything but samba, openchange and sogo?

How can we (the community) support you to get those core features (and some important contrib modules) back into mainline Zentyal?
Are there any known bugs in the recently removed features the community can help to fix?
Is it possible to just mark some features and modules as "experimental" and keep them in mainline Zentyal?

Please explain the reasons for the feature removal in version 4.1?
I can live with the situation that I have to manage (e.g. edit configuration files for) some modules/features like backup for example by myself. The Ubuntu package management allows this, so it's easily possible to extend Zentyal. I use Bareos (fork of Bacula) for backup and I'm really happy with that. I think it is more sophisticated than Duplicity.

Currently, I still use Zentyal 3.3. But I planned to migrate to 4.0 within the next weeks. According to the Git-Logs Zentyal seemed to have stabilized, so I just have to implement some replacements for some features removed from 3.3 to 4.0 (like the Apache webserver). But I'm very confident I can manage that. Now, I saw the 4.1 announcement: features removed again! I'm forced to implement replacements again, if possible at all. Zentyal did a major step from 3.3 to 4.0. OK, that's history. Normally, I expect bug fixes and some (small) new features from a point release, but not a feature removal.

My final question: what can we expect from Zentyal in the future?

Best regards,
Daniel
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: timroijers on April 01, 2015, 09:51:38 pm
hmmm by the time we hit Zentyal 5.0 they leave us with an interface with just a HALT/REBOOT button :)
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: nanocom on April 01, 2015, 10:54:02 pm
ok !!! this is my last test with zetyal,
moving to http://www.nethserver.org

look like zetyal moving down.....
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: fasttech on April 02, 2015, 01:07:58 am
After ignoring Zentyal for a few months I dropped back by to see that 4.1 has removed more features, that has to be a record for any product, Zentyal is surely becoming just like I said months ago, nothing more than an OpenChange gui, curious market choice.

As mburrillo said, don't let the door hit you in the ass, lol!

Now I'm kinda curious how long all my 3.3 installs will last.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: fasttech on April 02, 2015, 01:10:50 am
Anybody have any thoughts on what make nethserver any better than clearos?

I'm kinda invested in the ubuntu / debian world, my clearos installs are kinda out there.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: imapi on April 02, 2015, 10:13:08 am
Well I'm also quite sad about the missing functionalities but what can I do ... my question is are there any plans to cut more functions? I realy like the zentyal to zentyal vpn tunnel function and considering implementing it in my company but if you say that 4.2 / 4.3 wont have it i will not waste my time on it.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Wanderton on April 02, 2015, 01:57:56 pm
Greetings, from the beginning when I started working with Linux and servers, always used three tools: Squid, Apache and iptable not remember or a client that I have met who has not used these three tools.
I started using Zentyal for convenience, give comesou problems with the removal of apache, and now totalemente lost confidence in Zentyal team, as it seems, the Zentyal walks to a commercial platform, disguised as OPEN.
I am saddened by the death of Zentyal, which he considered of great value in old versions and now, almost a useless junk.
I beg to Zentyal developers that bring the squid back as soon as possible, and review this policy of removing modules, I believe that with more modules, you would have more customers paid and greater financial return support.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Gary Schiltz on April 02, 2015, 08:05:40 pm
Since I started deploying Zentyal a couple of years ago, I too was disappointed whenever some component or another was dropped. But since I am not a paying customer, I don't feel I have the right to complain. What I did, instead, was wipe my server clean and install the Proxmox virtualization environment (some would call it overkill for a single server solution, since it is also a fully-fledged cluster solution). Since most components are network-connected anyway, I can install multiple virtual machines and run missing pieces in another VM. It's also great that I can install multiple versions of software side by side, e.g. Zentyal 3.2 in one VM, 4.0 in another, and 4.1 in yet another, then start and stop them to do comparisons. In fact, I'll probably test out the aforementioned NethServer just to see how it suits my needs, alongside Zentyal. I've done the same thing with Univention Corporate Server. Whenever I decide I don't want to pursue a particular "server" further, I can just delete the corresponding VM.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: gerald_FS on April 02, 2015, 08:43:38 pm
So, after this the orientation more and more towards "only MS-compatible email solution" to go and none of the forums gods or Zentyal people take a stand on all points of criticism in various sub-areas of the forum - I have for myself decided that my 3 servers managed in the next opportunity to Neth server switch.

[url] http://www.nethserver.org [/ url]

Although this solution is "still" not quite as comfortable as Zentyal but you can do everything I need.

- SAMBA
- Web Server
- Bundling of network cards
- PPPOE
- Mail Filter
- Squid
- Web groupware (with interface to Android and iOS)

Had everything Zentyal times and made strong!

Too bad it was a great time!
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: makkk on April 03, 2015, 01:33:52 pm
Removing so basic modules... good luck... I will not upgrade, simple, stay with 4.0 for as long as possible, im looking for replacement (downloading NethServer right now) or go back to Windows Server...
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: yura.syrov on April 03, 2015, 01:42:29 pm
the gold sponsor establishes the rules... :)
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: makkk on April 03, 2015, 01:53:25 pm
the gold sponsor establishes the rules... :)

possible, it is (was!) doing Windows Servers job for free :)
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Dersch on April 04, 2015, 12:44:33 am
Seems you are removing more and more Moduls why i decided to usw zentyal, i already have the 3rd Server with zentyal planning but 4.1 i will not uae. I dont decided zentyal because oft its exchange feature i decided because oft the varity oft Moduls and nice managing of them. But now zentyal seems to be the wrong for future developing with it. Please go back to the roots before i found alternativ solution.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: linkstat on April 04, 2015, 07:16:05 am
Hi to all.
I'm currently testing NethServer as a Zentyal replacement, and looks not so bad. But, I preferr ZeroShell ( http://www.zeroshell.org/ ). The web interface is not so nice as the Zentyal, but in many cases is more powerfull (DHCP, DNS and RADIUS for example). It's free, and have an Add-ons repo, that can be accessed through contributions (puting a link on a website, or posting experiences with Zeroshell on forums, blogs, or making a donation, of course).
If you don't like the new Zentyal directions, and/or NethServer isn't enough for you, so try ZeroShell  :)

Greetings!!!
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: gabriel.gheorghiu@abt.ro on April 04, 2015, 09:12:52 am
Hi,
I looked at ZeroShell. It's OK for those who want a firewall.
In my opinion can't be compared with Zentyal 3.5, 4.0 or even 4.1 and also with NethServer. They are different in many ways.
For now, I use Zentyal 4.0 as multi domain email server only, placed in DMZ on ENDIAN UTM. It works fine.
For this task, multi domain email server only, I think the new version 4.1 is ok (ENDIAN UTM make all filters very well: SMTP proxy, POP3 Proxy).
Till now, I didn't make the upgrade to 4.1. I read on this forum that may be some issues (https://forum.zentyal.org/index.php/topic,24917.0.html). Did anyone made the upgrade well?

In this moment I'm testing NethServer. It works fine and the NethServer team is very active on forum.

Best regards,
Gabriel
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: hgeorge123 on April 05, 2015, 09:22:25 pm
One of the reasons that zentyal use is the single sign on having the proxy know of any distro that allows do this with a samba domain
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: OpenMercuryNet on April 07, 2015, 12:59:16 pm
Reading this thread has been enlightening.

I recently discovered Zentyal - in the past year - and have been extremely happy running it up to 4.0 in my office environment deploying the community edition. So much so I have been in communication with Eloy to become a partner hopefully in the near future when time permits to take the ZeCA exam. Which looking at the existing partners I would be one of the very few, if any, existing Canadian partners offering Zentyal as a solution for SMB huzzah Me.

Knowing now there are some issues with upgrading to 4.1 I wont be making that move anytime soon.

However in my particular environment I actually have a ClearOS - love ClearOS! - box as a dedicated gateway, and Zentyal 4.0 as my DC - which suites me just fine as I wouldn't want my DC on the edge anyway. Am I missing something here? ClearOS provides my Squid and many robust features just fine, what I need behind it is the M$ replacement to integrate AD etc. although ClearOS does this to a good point; I really like the additional capabilities of Zentyal. So for me the two work well together.

Some Questions I have are:

what modules have been dropped from 4.0?
what is the future direction of Zentyal?
Of note is the current book is still at 3.2 sp2 for study. Is there a 4.0 book coming? How will the exam be impacted by the changes?

I'm currently working with a SMB client to replace their EOL M$ 2003 Server with Zentyal - the client will require the AD and Exchange service integration so huzzah Zentyal. I don't want surprises in the future for a production environment that will make me look like I made the wrong choice down the road.
Title: Mailfilter and Antivirus modules
Post by: mburillo on April 08, 2015, 03:02:25 pm
Hello all,

After all the feedback, we have reconsidered the removal of the "mailfilter" and "antivirus" modules. This functionality is closely related to the "Active Exchange" (Samba + Mail + OpenChange) long term vision of the company, therefore, they will be back later this week.

Regards.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: mburillo on April 08, 2015, 03:07:00 pm
Quote
what modules have been dropped from 4.0?
what is the future direction of Zentyal?
Of note is the current book is still at 3.2 sp2 for study. Is there a 4.0 book coming? How will the exam be impacted by the changes?

- HA, jabber, l2tp, squid, trafficshaping

- Active Exchange => Directory, mail and groupware (plus the basic network configuration and web administration of course)

- We expect to have the 4.1 book ready next month
Title: Re: Mailfilter and Antivirus modules
Post by: pcready.cl on April 08, 2015, 03:10:52 pm
Hello all,

After all the feedback, we have reconsidered the removal of the "mailfilter" and "antivirus" modules. This functionality is closely related to the "Active Exchange" (Samba + Mail + OpenChange) long term vision of the company, therefore, they will be back later this week.

Regards.

Antivirus???

The antivirus does nothing really.

What should maintain is the module "squid" which is very necessary for enterprises, independent of the area, the antivirus solutions for Windows are efficient with SMB, also put on the server seems unnecessary.

They should also keep the Firewall module + Network, if we're really going to use Zentyal as PDC need to take control of the network and DNS.

The Zentyal project has unfortunately been influenced by third parties that have stolen the real sense of the system that was "all in one" efficient and safe.

I regret what is happening, use Zentyal from version 2.x has lost so many features that I had to meet with other system that truth the profile of most of my clients is not suitable for version 4.1.x

I'll have to migrate to new systems as Zentyal is not what it was or promised.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: mburillo on April 08, 2015, 03:25:35 pm
Quote
They should also keep the Firewall module + Network, if we're really going to use Zentyal as PDC need to take control of the network and DNS.

??? Those modules are still there.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: pcready.cl on April 08, 2015, 03:30:28 pm
Quote
They should also keep the Firewall module + Network, if we're really going to use Zentyal as PDC need to take control of the network and DNS.

??? Those modules are still there.

PPPoE? Ethernet Failover? Ethernet Bonding?

Not really....
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: mburillo on April 08, 2015, 03:33:13 pm
That functionality is related with a gateway server, we are not going that direction anymore.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: pcready.cl on April 08, 2015, 03:50:40 pm
That functionality is related with a gateway server, we are not going that direction anymore.

That is the reason why many use Zentyal, I have no doubt that the work we are haciedo currently is good, the DC Zentyal I liked and quite malleable, but can not and should leave users who have contributed to the developing support for applications, have just removed functions.

They published a roadmap with changes in versions that did not meet the deadlines, but never on that map indicated that changes would have if they had done would have time for options, now only I have so notified me through this forum and an email indicating Zentyal increasingly makes less than they originally to.

Innovation is a process of elections, but have not innovated have only lost credibility.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: yura.syrov on April 08, 2015, 04:10:10 pm
why to command of developers not to record for a long time system of modules and not to provide all exhaustive documentation on those modules which were removed from the official version? For Webmin there are many modules. If something is necessary - necessary the model simply is established (not through deb-packages). In what a problem to leave modules as they are and let the community finish them? The main thing to leave the unchangeable mechanism of connection of these modules.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: royceb on April 08, 2015, 09:24:52 pm
I can understand those who love all in one solutions and 2 + years ago Zentyal was that.  Clearly this is no longer their goal/direction but instead they are headed towards more of an drop in specialty appliance.  If they are going to do something you would want them to do it well and consistently rather than try to package together something that is so/so. You cannot right now easily find a drop in AD/SAMBA based setup that is as easy to work with as Zentyal and for that I applaud them.

What I think probably could be done better on Zentyal's part is the communication/notification of their intent and map of modules to be modified over time.  If I knew now that in 8 months you were dropping the VPN module from Zentyal for instance I would plan accordingly rather than having it spurred on me at the last moment.

Either way, thank you for your efforts.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: mburillo on April 09, 2015, 01:12:00 pm
Hello all,

Mailfilter and Antivirus modules are available again! Just update your software list.

R,
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: xerez on April 09, 2015, 01:46:43 pm
Now the proxy please!! :)

PS: I installed and activated the antivirus module but i don't see the tab in Files Sharing.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: imapi on April 09, 2015, 02:13:37 pm
If so many people want the "gateway" version of Zentyal why not to "fork" it or support it some how. As i can see from zentyal git all the modules are in contrib repo and licensed under GPL v2
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: mburillo on April 09, 2015, 03:05:21 pm
Quote
If so many people want the "gateway" version of Zentyal why not to "fork" it or support it some how. As i can see from zentyal git all the modules are in contrib repo and licensed under GPL v2

You are totally right, all our past work is in a public repo with a free licence, any person is encouraged to continue that work.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: mtzro2003 on April 10, 2015, 08:49:44 am
Quote
They should also keep the Firewall module + Network, if we're really going to use Zentyal as PDC need to take control of the network and DNS.

??? Those modules are still there.

PPPoE? Ethernet Failover? Ethernet Bonding?

Not really....

That functionality is related with a gateway server, we are not going that direction anymore.

Personally, I doubt that bonding is strictly related to the "gateway server".
Those options could be very useful even if we're not using Zentyal as gateway
Maybe just PPPoE... but even this could be used as a back-up connection...

What's wrong with keeping on those options?
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: ashby on April 15, 2015, 12:29:24 pm
I am gutted.

I have just moved job and my first task was to recommend Zentyal to replace their existing Windows network. It now looks like it is losing the ability to be an all-in-one Windows Server replacement.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: yura.syrov on April 15, 2015, 05:21:15 pm
It now looks like it is losing the ability to be an all-in-one Windows Server replacement.
why?
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Wanderton on April 16, 2015, 01:52:04 am
Let's face it, money speaks louder! Zentyal 4.1 is dead!
The microsoft won!
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: yura.syrov on April 16, 2015, 08:27:45 am
Let's face it, money speaks louder! Zentyal 4.1 is dead!
The microsoft won!

don't panic also not crying!
the team of developers does that can, proceeding from the budget.
many of us bought from them a subscription and brought a donation?
command line in Linux nobody cancelled.
take remote modules from contrib and use further!
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Mittelerde on April 16, 2015, 09:52:24 am
Zentyal staff wrote a Howto for
Building and maintaining a contrib Zentyal module (https://wiki.zentyal.org/wiki/Building_and_maintaining_a_contrib_Zentyal_module)
( last modified on 4 August 2014)

I think the Zentyal Team has the focus now on stability and a better openchange implementation.
.....whether my users use outlook or not ;)

Zentyal is a magnificent alternative operating system

Applause to all involved in it

Thanks

Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Gilberto Ferreira on April 18, 2015, 03:18:52 am
So sad to hear this news!

I will continue use Zentyal 3.2. For now, it's the best!

Or, looking for an alternative!

Thanks
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Gilberto Ferreira on April 19, 2015, 03:05:39 pm
I hope Zentyal 3.2 never get discontinued!

This is the only complete and stable Zentyal version
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: timroijers on April 29, 2015, 05:39:41 pm
Hello all,

Mailfilter and Antivirus modules are available again! Just update your software list.

R,

A big thumbs up for listening to your customers!
Thanks for restoring these modules!
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Dersch on May 04, 2015, 10:15:48 am
Is there any way to downgrade an existing and running Zentyal 4.0 DC to 3.2 by keeping all settings?
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Kurtis on May 11, 2015, 07:40:41 pm
Will HTTP Proxy becoming back?
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: yura.syrov on May 12, 2015, 03:17:00 am
Will HTTP Proxy becoming back?
use contrib repo
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Kurtis on May 12, 2015, 08:02:22 pm
Will HTTP Proxy becoming back?
use contrib repo

I followed the guide on here but when I installed the module it said it was for versions before 4.1.. How do I make the module for 4.1?
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: yura.syrov on May 13, 2015, 05:27:59 am
Will HTTP Proxy becoming back?
use contrib repo

I followed the guide on here but when I installed the module it said it was for versions before 4.1.. How do I make the module for 4.1?

https://wiki.zentyal.org/wiki/Building_and_maintaining_a_contrib_Zentyal_module
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Kurtis on May 13, 2015, 04:00:04 pm
Will HTTP Proxy becoming back?
use contrib repo

I followed the guide on here but when I installed the module it said it was for versions before 4.1.. How do I make the module for 4.1?

https://wiki.zentyal.org/wiki/Building_and_maintaining_a_contrib_Zentyal_module

I have tried that, but the deb that is built is not compatible with 4.1 (zentyal-squid_4.0.1_all.deb).
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: ashby on May 18, 2015, 05:09:48 pm

4.1 has been a game changer for a lot of people, with it removing a lot of functionality and concentrating on areas that are not used by some of us.

Obviously everyone has their own requirements, and Zentyal with a bit of hacking currently covers what we need. However it would it would be great to see an up to date roadmap so we could have some idea of the direction Zentyal is going in so we can make plans if need be.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: Laurent Dinclaux on June 03, 2015, 12:10:21 pm
hmmm by the time we hit Zentyal 5.0 they leave us with an interface with just a HALT/REBOOT button :)

Definitely. It is a massive disappointment to loose the Network Gateway feature and no alternative under Ubuntu/Debian  :'(
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: robb on June 04, 2015, 01:20:50 pm
hmmm by the time we hit Zentyal 5.0 they leave us with an interface with just a HALT/REBOOT button :)

Definitely. It is a massive disappointment to loose the Network Gateway feature and no alternative under Ubuntu/Debian  :'(

Well... you could be a bit more creative...:)
Consider the following scenario:
Take a server with at least 2 NICs and a VTd capable processor
Install a vanilla Ubuntu LTS Server with KVM
Install 2 VM's
- pfSense
- Zentyal

Give eth0 exclusively to pfSense
share eth1 with pfSense, Zentyal and the rest of the LAN

This way all traffic MUST go through pfSense if it leaves (or get inside) the LAN.

However, for me Zentyal has reached the point it serves no use for my situation. I prefer to use a mixed environment where both Linux and MS clients can use all the features on the network. With current direction of Zentyal, Linux clients are not supported (enough) and therefore Zentyal 3.2 will be the last version I will use. Untill Ubuntu 12.04 is EOL I will keep using the servers I currently have, but after that, another sollution will replace Zentyal.
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: jeffb1 on July 12, 2015, 04:15:11 pm
Please give a futures Roadmap (4.2? 5???)
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: yokobr on July 14, 2015, 10:04:32 pm
If the current goal of Zentyal is being SHIT, you're doing a GREAT job. Keep focused!
Title: Re: Zentyal 4.1 available!
Post by: deepc on September 04, 2015, 10:28:48 am
A roadmap or at least an information whats going on would be nice