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News and Announcements / Re: Zentyal 4.0 Roadmap Published!
« on: August 28, 2014, 01:27:45 pm »
well basically if they dont,
i would consider finding a programmer, and setting up some kickstarter project to finance the development of an office server pluging for openmediavault,
as it stands they at least have a more robust way of storing and providing your data both via cifs/smb and nfs. as well as a more flexible way of managing and mounting data stores.
debian based as it is it wouldn't be impossible to add groupware and usermanagement. paired with for example pfsence it somehow makes more sense these days.
i would consider finding a programmer, and setting up some kickstarter project to finance the development of an office server pluging for openmediavault,
as it stands they at least have a more robust way of storing and providing your data both via cifs/smb and nfs. as well as a more flexible way of managing and mounting data stores.
debian based as it is it wouldn't be impossible to add groupware and usermanagement. paired with for example pfsence it somehow makes more sense these days.
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News and Announcements / Re: Zentyal 4.0 Roadmap Published!
« on: August 26, 2014, 06:50:36 pm »
back for a bit because i can,
i think that with opting for the removal of certian aspecs zentyal might (or might not) grow towards a better solution to its goal,
but at the same time it breaks a lot of essential stuff going on...
the problem here lies with that zentyal is really a verry high level management interface, which for most novice sysadmins is a "good thing TM".
but there is and always has been a key issue... zentyal for example wants to also do dhcp and other network stuf. where it shouldn't dont mess with my router/firwall/utm gateway servers... by now we should ALL know that zentyal is decent at best if we look at lan / wan management. even in small (less than 10 workstations), setups a dualcore xeon E4xxx had issues routing my 100mbit wan connection, and stuf like youtube online games or torrents would hogg the system down to... well you really dont want to know...
so instead of droping the webserver (whitch should have been improved (like i have said about 200 times), rather than abandoned, and NUT which could also use some work (you really do want to use an Uninteruptible power supply on your office server)
why not instead drop dhcpd and the firewall module...
take pfsence for example https://www.pfsense.org/about-pfsense/features.html has loads and loads and loads more features than zentyal could ever hope to get... why not just give a screen at the end of your setup wizzard, telling people what settings to choose in there network management tool... rather than doing it yourself poorly...
as for removing webserver, 8 out of every 10 offices run custom software crap on thair windows servers, either build in ms accees or vb or what not, when migrating those offices to linux requires them to also change thos badd build it in exel or access habbits, what better way is there than to offer of the shelve wwwroots where you can host any php app you can get (or build), prefeably with some aditional tooling to supply them with user / group authentication or restriction etc.
the default configs of sutch should probably be a default created /srv/www/dns-name/ folder stucture, with a log folder, a httpdocs root folder and a config file to override apache.conf and php.ini as well as aproprate dns atributes for the domain.
intergrating 3rd party aplications into your user-managment / office email etc infra structure is way more importand and a lot less trivial than managing a nework, withc any soho-router can already do just fine, if need be
if you want to commit zentyal an office server, than make it one, that works, and abandon the right modules
i think that with opting for the removal of certian aspecs zentyal might (or might not) grow towards a better solution to its goal,
but at the same time it breaks a lot of essential stuff going on...
the problem here lies with that zentyal is really a verry high level management interface, which for most novice sysadmins is a "good thing TM".
but there is and always has been a key issue... zentyal for example wants to also do dhcp and other network stuf. where it shouldn't dont mess with my router/firwall/utm gateway servers... by now we should ALL know that zentyal is decent at best if we look at lan / wan management. even in small (less than 10 workstations), setups a dualcore xeon E4xxx had issues routing my 100mbit wan connection, and stuf like youtube online games or torrents would hogg the system down to... well you really dont want to know...
so instead of droping the webserver (whitch should have been improved (like i have said about 200 times), rather than abandoned, and NUT which could also use some work (you really do want to use an Uninteruptible power supply on your office server)
why not instead drop dhcpd and the firewall module...
take pfsence for example https://www.pfsense.org/about-pfsense/features.html has loads and loads and loads more features than zentyal could ever hope to get... why not just give a screen at the end of your setup wizzard, telling people what settings to choose in there network management tool... rather than doing it yourself poorly...
as for removing webserver, 8 out of every 10 offices run custom software crap on thair windows servers, either build in ms accees or vb or what not, when migrating those offices to linux requires them to also change thos badd build it in exel or access habbits, what better way is there than to offer of the shelve wwwroots where you can host any php app you can get (or build), prefeably with some aditional tooling to supply them with user / group authentication or restriction etc.
the default configs of sutch should probably be a default created /srv/www/dns-name/ folder stucture, with a log folder, a httpdocs root folder and a config file to override apache.conf and php.ini as well as aproprate dns atributes for the domain.
intergrating 3rd party aplications into your user-managment / office email etc infra structure is way more importand and a lot less trivial than managing a nework, withc any soho-router can already do just fine, if need be
if you want to commit zentyal an office server, than make it one, that works, and abandon the right modules
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal + Zimbra + Briefcase
« on: June 19, 2013, 08:51:34 am »
@chris i think hes actually upside down, as i understand (but correct me if im wrong) he wants zentyal to athenticate against the zimbra server not zimbra against zentyal...
if im right, than my short answer is, the fact that your even asking here in this forum tell me that you will never succeed unless you go to zentyal.com and pay top dollar (euro), for professional deployment advice.
the longer answer would ivolve me explaining why this is sutch a bad-idea (TM) and why you shoul have migrated your ldap / user data to zentyal and than bind your groupware servers
but really that would be a long and boaring story for you to read and even more so for me to write..
also if he feals up to the challenge chris is mutch better at providing detail than i would ever be
if im right, than my short answer is, the fact that your even asking here in this forum tell me that you will never succeed unless you go to zentyal.com and pay top dollar (euro), for professional deployment advice.
the longer answer would ivolve me explaining why this is sutch a bad-idea (TM) and why you shoul have migrated your ldap / user data to zentyal and than bind your groupware servers
but really that would be a long and boaring story for you to read and even more so for me to write..
also if he feals up to the challenge chris is mutch better at providing detail than i would ever be
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: First time on zentyal
« on: May 30, 2013, 11:03:18 pm »
first of all ... check if you have installed the right components for things to work...
first things first: you nead to have a working network connection, preferably via a switch or maybe what consumers call a modem/router or a router...
connecting a pc directly to your zentyal without any devices in between requires a special type of cable, called a straight cable but is not recomended...
than be sure that both devices are on the same network (ip + subnet) ... read the http://doc.zentyal.org website for more info...
first things first: you nead to have a working network connection, preferably via a switch or maybe what consumers call a modem/router or a router...
connecting a pc directly to your zentyal without any devices in between requires a special type of cable, called a straight cable but is not recomended...
than be sure that both devices are on the same network (ip + subnet) ... read the http://doc.zentyal.org website for more info...
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: email alias for internal use only
« on: May 27, 2013, 04:14:00 pm »
isn't it possible to apply a filter like if sender is NOT anyone (*@yourdomain.com) deny the email, it wouldn't be a perfect / watter proof solution but in general it migh work if your host is blocking open releys its even better
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: New Install "4th time on same box now"
« on: May 27, 2013, 04:00:38 pm »
wow, there is just 1 solution to fix almost ALL of your problems, well actually there are 2.
1: read the friggin manual,
2: pay someone who did and have him/her install the box for you...
all that you are asking is in the manual and in previous posts in this forum... if you nead a more basic help guide than maybe THIS BOOK would be a good option for you...
i dont mean to be harsh but from the questions you have been asking and the way that you are, its clear to me that your not really into the knowledge of maintaining a system like this, buying the book will really help you understand more of it and so it would help you ask better questions.
1: read the friggin manual,
2: pay someone who did and have him/her install the box for you...
all that you are asking is in the manual and in previous posts in this forum... if you nead a more basic help guide than maybe THIS BOOK would be a good option for you...
i dont mean to be harsh but from the questions you have been asking and the way that you are, its clear to me that your not really into the knowledge of maintaining a system like this, buying the book will really help you understand more of it and so it would help you ask better questions.
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Portuguese / Re: IPV6
« on: May 26, 2013, 11:02:19 pm »
zentyal is not (yet) supporting ip6 and it will not do so for at least 18 months (zentyal 4.0 based on ubuntu 14.04) and even than it its not certain that by that version they had enought resources to complete this task (or even begin with it).
for the time being you wil have to use some sort of Network Adress Translation (by example with pfsence)
please not that ip6 has some reserved blockspace for this
im sorry for the english reply but i gues that it is better than a google translation to your language
for the time being you wil have to use some sort of Network Adress Translation (by example with pfsence)
please not that ip6 has some reserved blockspace for this
im sorry for the english reply but i gues that it is better than a google translation to your language
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Windows Workstation Login - Consuming their Already Existing Local-User-Folder
« on: May 26, 2013, 02:31:02 pm »
new dc new PID - this is just not possible, and even worse if your domain is configured correctly you would also have to chown (or windows equivilent) all the data to the new user this is not a zentyal thing but by design how domains work,
hopfully zentyal will never fix this because it would be a huge security violation...
hopfully zentyal will never fix this because it would be a huge security violation...
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Zentyal behind DD-WRT Router - Can't Join Domain with Wifi
« on: May 24, 2013, 06:45:43 pm »
than ask at ddwrt maybe they have some defaults that are fubar.
also just do all the usual networking checks like portscan dns trace and the works...
and if all else fails disable all the router features in ddwrt configure it as a single vlan switch and than use all static ip's and try again...
also just do all the usual networking checks like portscan dns trace and the works...
and if all else fails disable all the router features in ddwrt configure it as a single vlan switch and than use all static ip's and try again...
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: File Sharing with NAS on the Network
« on: May 24, 2013, 06:42:54 pm »
agree with chris, i can only say that is bad pratice TM to remotely mount a filesystem only to re-share it again...
if you set up your shares correctly on your nas than you can just add a suser to a given usergroup to grant him permission...
on the nas just create share called accounting than grand access to all users from domain group accounting and if you want to give access to a new user just add him to that group... simple as pie
if you set up your shares correctly on your nas than you can just add a suser to a given usergroup to grant him permission...
on the nas just create share called accounting than grand access to all users from domain group accounting and if you want to give access to a new user just add him to that group... simple as pie
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Multi level share access rights
« on: May 24, 2013, 06:38:20 pm »
acl can be set on 'shares' and on filesystem atribs (IF) the system mounts with acl support... the thing you need to look at is setting the acl for these sub folders via cli...
where you set real + list the master folder and read / write the child folders it you want this.. be sure to grand minimal right to the master and than add per 'sub' folder aditional atributes its a little tricky
but can (or should be able to) work...
sub folder acl in the zentyal GUI is verry unlikely unleas a filemanager is added for witch there is no 'clear' sign yet - so keep expacting a 'custom' approach.
where you set real + list the master folder and read / write the child folders it you want this.. be sure to grand minimal right to the master and than add per 'sub' folder aditional atributes its a little tricky
but can (or should be able to) work...
sub folder acl in the zentyal GUI is verry unlikely unleas a filemanager is added for witch there is no 'clear' sign yet - so keep expacting a 'custom' approach.
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Multi level share access rights
« on: May 24, 2013, 10:17:41 am »
setfacl is the command (cli) that your looking for
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Webapp Chat addon
« on: May 23, 2013, 03:25:45 pm »
you where right first time, you should post this on zarafa forum as zentyal is using thair stock version without modifications,
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: Help how to setup 2 Zentyal server as gateway-firewall and another zarafa server
« on: May 20, 2013, 12:08:57 pm »
at the risk of having to ask to split this debate of from topic .....
split mailserver design doesn't mean that you should seperate mail from the gateway...
in your case chris, eatch of these locations would have thair own gateway (i presume) meening that they could all have a mailserver running on thair respective gateways.... the question here could be where you want your email stored, but than we are talking about MTA / MDA seperation i guess, if you want to continue down this road it would be logical to store you mail in the same space where other data (from fileserver / domainc controller etc) lives and you would move your mail transfer as well as mail filtering to your gateway...
split mailserver design doesn't mean that you should seperate mail from the gateway...
in your case chris, eatch of these locations would have thair own gateway (i presume) meening that they could all have a mailserver running on thair respective gateways.... the question here could be where you want your email stored, but than we are talking about MTA / MDA seperation i guess, if you want to continue down this road it would be logical to store you mail in the same space where other data (from fileserver / domainc controller etc) lives and you would move your mail transfer as well as mail filtering to your gateway...
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Installation and Upgrades / Re: some logg-on log off issues on z 3.1
« on: May 18, 2013, 12:16:45 pm »
i never had this with 3.0 really, meaning somehow with this new installer there is no session manager installed like gdm or lightdm or simular... this sounds good because x should not be started by default, and infact it should only run as user not as service....
making it perfect default behaviour, what worried me more is that when logging off from GUI you are promted to a logged-on terminal prompt
making it perfect default behaviour, what worried me more is that when logging off from GUI you are promted to a logged-on terminal prompt