webmail and groupware (mail) consistency

[flyinglionel]

Hi all,

Am I missing something?

I was hopping that webmail account and groupware account (zarafa) will share the same mail service but it seems that it is not.

For example:
After having sent an email to someone, I am hopping to see this email in the sent folder of webmail as long as the sent folder of zarafa.
The same for the inbox, whatever the tools I am using to read my email, I want to have the same view of my inbox.

This is what I call "consistency".

I have a default install of zentyal and by activating Zarafa, I am far away from this wanted behavior.
I can read webmail, I can read zarafa mail but they are strangers from each other.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

[jsalamero]

Zentyal mail module uses Dovecot mailboxes storage where groupware (Zarafa) uses it's own storage, based on MySQL. When you choose to deliver a domain to Zarafa it's not delivered to Dovecot anymore. You could reconfigure Webmail to check Zarafa IMAP, but you will loose access to remaining virtual domain still in mail (Dovecot). We wish we could do something here, but using Zarafa with it's own MySQL has its great advantages and duplicating email in both doesn't worth it.

[ebox_liker]

What about having all domains in zarafa and allow access to their IMAPs via roundcube?

At the moment I am trying to achieve the following scenario:
 - have 2 virtual domains  (webmail.domain1.com and webmail.domain2.com)
 - create different config files for each virtual domain (for example /srv/www/webmail.domain1.com/config/main.inc.php)
Anyone done that before cuz I'm having some troubles here with server always reading config for roundcube from /etc/roundcube/main.inc.php...

Can you post an example of config for accessing Zarafa IMAP with roundcube please?

M

[Jan Jacobs]

personally, i think they need to get rid of either one of those..
it makes things over complicated for the beginning sysadmin!

and personally, i think they should get rid of the standard mailsystem, and let zafara handle mail/groupware

perhaps include a wizard to enable and configure one mailsystem when the user first logs in or something? i see many users with mail related problems, whereas the rest of the system is as good as perfect!

[christian]

personally, i think they need to get rid of either one of those..
it makes things over complicated for the beginning sysadmin!
and personally, i think they should get rid of the standard mailsystem, and let zafara handle mail/groupware

Well, I'm just thinking the opposite, sorry.
The big advantage of the "standard mail system" is that it is... standard :-) which means that you can change components without being attached to proprietary implementation.
This said, I share that one single mail system is better.

How many are using groupware features and how many are using Zentyal with mail but without groupware?

I don't use groupware but I do need mail: going in direction you promote would mean, in my case, to install groupware component in order to use mail... Frankly, if such change occurs, I will just drop Zentyal and go different implementation :-(

[jsalamero]

We won't replace Dovecot with Zarafa for all domains. They are different components used in different scenarios.

[ctek]

Hi, I have also some questions regarding this issue.
Is it possible to do a cron script to synchronize the zarafa mysql with dovecot ? in this way the mails will be in both systems. And also this will not allow any mail to be lost. Either via email client or Zarafa inteface or Roundcube.

If someone has any instructions on this please share.

Thank you and best regards
Bogdan

[alvinquah]

Hi since we are in this topic, can i just check if i just want to send mail using POP/POP3/IMAP/IMAPS, can i use ebox-zarafa instead of ebox-webmail? Meaning to say i just want my users to access http://zentyal-mail/webaccess and they are able to access email as well as zarafa groupware without accessing http://zentyal-mail/webmail at all? thanks

[ctek]

jsalamero
Can you please tell me how we can use Zarafa as default mailsystem
I want to try to use Zarafa as default and see how it does. Is it difficult to achieve this ?

[jsalamero]

You could do some scripting with imapsync to syncronize between dovecot and zarafa, not straight forward though.

Webmail isn't necessary if you are using only Zarafa.

And as a general guideline, configure your mail server, create one virtual domain and assign it to Zarafa, it's easy

[Jan Jacobs]

You could do some scripting with imapsync to syncronize between dovecot and zarafa, not straight forward though.

Webmail isn't necessary if you are using only Zarafa.

And as a general guideline, configure your mail server, create one virtual domain and assign it to Zarafa, it's easy

easy?
now there's the funny part
i have still not figured out how to do that...

[alvinquah]

You could do some scripting with imapsync to syncronize between dovecot and zarafa, not straight forward though.

Webmail isn't necessary if you are using only Zarafa.

And as a general guideline, configure your mail server, create one virtual domain and assign it to Zarafa, it's easy

can we assign both pop and imap to zarafa? thanks

[jsalamero]

Yes, you could assign pop and imap to Zarafa and make Dovecot listen in different ports modifying the configuration stubs.

[Jan Jacobs]

is there an "official" howto available.. to work with zafara as mailserver/groupware under Zentyal?
because, for the life of god, i seem to be unable to figure it out
i can logon to the zafara mailserver through the web, but i cant send mail..
and i also cant connect using thunderbird?

[flyinglionel]

Thank you for all these comments.

I am a little bit less in the fog.