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Zentyal 8
« on: June 21, 2023, 10:43:11 am »
I can't find any information other then someone on GitHub saying 8.0 will be released last May.
But I don't believe that happened.
I just came from ClearOS which is pretty much dead for over a year now, and development stopped around 2019. Other then the CEO that keeps on saying everything is fine. Even though they fired the only support guy a long time ago, and security patches stopped coming for even longer.
Bottom line, I am getting pretty wary when new releases are not being released.
Does anybody a timeline or any other information?

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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2023, 12:15:15 pm »
Hi everyone. This thread was not being closely monitored, but I would like to assure you all that Zentyal is very much alive, supported by a small development team in Spain but is now US owned and headquartered in New York. The release of 8.0 was planned for 2023 midyear but was delayed due to installer issues, and a new installer had to be created, pushing the 8.0 release back to December 2023. The new installer is almost ready, along with many bug fixes. The development team leader stated that monthly releases are planned from December onward. We will be monitoring this feed more closely as we ramp up our efforts to deliver a stable product that we can all be proud of. Zentyal has been a well-supported product, and although the team is small, we plan to increase its footprint globally while building on a solid foundation.

In addition, The 7.1 release (updating the installer and several bug fixes) is being finalized for distribution by the end of June 2023.

Source: https://github.com/zentyal/zentyal/issues/2085




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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2023, 12:20:16 am »
Looks like the new 7.1 ISO dropped recently.    The website isn't updated yet but you can still get the iso 

Link for your convenience  https://download02.public.zentyal.com/zentyal-7.1-development-amd64.iso

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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2023, 05:20:12 pm »
Thank you all!
I'll try 7.1 after the holidays. Hopefully the rough edges are removed.

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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2023, 07:06:55 pm »
Wow! almost 2x the size of 7.0 (2.1G download vs 1.1G)

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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2023, 09:40:20 am »
Hi everyone. This thread was not being closely monitored, but I would like to assure you all that Zentyal is very much alive, supported by a small development team in Spain but is now US owned and headquartered in New York. The release of 8.0 was planned for 2023 midyear but was delayed due to installer issues, and a new installer had to be created, pushing the 8.0 release back to December 2023. The new installer is almost ready, along with many bug fixes. The development team leader stated that monthly releases are planned from December onward. We will be monitoring this feed more closely as we ramp up our efforts to deliver a stable product that we can all be proud of. Zentyal has been a well-supported product, and although the team is small, we plan to increase its footprint globally while building on a solid foundation.

In addition, The 7.1 release (updating the installer and several bug fixes) is being finalized for distribution by the end of June 2023.

Source: https://github.com/zentyal/zentyal/issues/2085

I would add the 7.1 release to "RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND CHANGELOGS". Potential new customers might doubt the development if the last release is over two years ago.

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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2023, 09:54:39 am »
Exactly! I don´t know why they dont add 7.1 to newest release. There are some activity on Facebook. But this homepage are not updated  8) I hope it will change in the near future.

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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2023, 10:38:52 am »
Hi Luke,
What is the current status with 8.0?
If I understand correctly, Zentyal does not do Beta testing by users. But if you can use it, I'd be happy to make myself available.
7.1 had quite a few nonsensical settings that a beta tester had removed (for example, why on earth would you only free up 100Gb on your LVM).

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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2023, 11:05:56 am »
Hi Luke,
What is the current status with 8.0?
If I understand correctly, Zentyal does not do Beta testing by users. But if you can use it, I'd be happy to make myself available.
7.1 had quite a few nonsensical settings that a beta tester had removed (for example, why on earth would you only free up 100Gb on your LVM).

Yea they made a post on Facebook what version people are using. And according from Zentyal the 8.0 is planned in Feb. I think 7.1 are working well ?

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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2023, 11:39:37 am »
I think I am spoiled with the ClearOS I was used to. I never experienced so many rough patches.
When I install by just going next next next you get everything on a 100Gb part of the LVM. Easy to resolve, but it makes no sense.
I ran into the issue that it doesn't support PPPoE with a fixed IP (https://forum.zentyal.org/index.php/topic,35644.0.html) I now know it should work since under plain Ubuntu it works like I expected. I just don't know what happens if I mess with settings in the OS that do not align with the webinterface.

When making changes with the VLAN's (in the end I just gave up) and then going back to plain ethernet, you'll get all kind of issues, because Zentyal doesn't remove the VLAN settings, it just removes it from the interface.
Everything looks right, but things like DHCP/DNS/SAMBA just give up and won't start anymore.

And I am pretty sure there is a bug in the user/user rights.
If you make a user and then configure the rights, it probably works just fine. When you add 10 users and configure the rights, and then save. It becomes a lottery.
The webinterface tells everything is correct. But getting the client connected to the shares is a different thing. Completely random. like 3 of the 10 won't be able to connect to some share, sometimes even the personal one.
Luckily when you switch the Acces control from "read/write" to "administrator" or "read-only", save. Then switch it back and save again. Everything is works as expected.
I really believe Zentyal should use Beta testers.


 

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Re: Zentyal 8
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2024, 01:39:34 pm »
This product is a secuirty nightmare. I wouldn't feel comfortable deploying it anywhere.